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The Ukraine war thread

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #3081

    Normally I doubt there would much appetite for a Western megapower but nowadays…who knows? Perhaps certain a region like Chukotka for purely strategic reasons but nothing much else.

    Russian far east though is definitely a desirable backyard sandbox for the Chinese.

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by
      #3082

      Ukraine groans a collective “WTF?” to Trump’s latest Putin comments:

      https://kyivindependent.com/kyiv-groans-a-collective-wtf-to-trumps-latest-putin-comments/

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote last edited by
        #3083

        FFS

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote last edited by
          #3084

          General Keith Kellogg speaks:

          https://kyivindependent.com/keith-kellogg-says-he-left-trumps-white-house-to-be-free-to-talk-about-ukraine/

          Elbows up!

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          • W Offline
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            Wim
            wrote last edited by
            #3085

            And again: the Trump 'kompromat'. Si non e vero, e bene trovato.

            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/69648

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote last edited by
              #3086

              This is an old claim. I doubt he would be stupid enough to misbehave in Russia.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • W Wim

                And again: the Trump 'kompromat'. Si non e vero, e bene trovato.

                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/69648

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote last edited by Renauda
                #3087

                @Wim

                I saw that earlier today. There have been other articles published the past year or so citing Mussayev’s claims. He appears to have been at this for some time.

                I am of the opinion that there is nothing there and that Mussayev is conjuring this up to get attention in the hope of gaining recognition as an “expert/influencer” and cashing in on what that role offers in the charged populist dichotomy of our times. Even if there is a grain of truth in his claims, I highly doubt any serious kompromat on Trump involves women of any age group. Rather, it would be of a financial nature involving investments of ill gotten Russian money into Trump family owned properties. Essentially Putin knows and has the paperwork showing who, when, where and how much to the penny was involved in laundering money via the Trump syndicate.

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #3088

                  I think you're quite right that financial shenanigans would be much more likely.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • W Offline
                    W Offline
                    Wim
                    wrote last edited by
                    #3089

                    The claim that Kazakhstan tried something on Trump in 2017 was -at least for me- a new element.

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote last edited by Renauda
                      #3090

                      New to me as well but, all the same, not at all compelling for the simple reason it places too many people in the know.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote last edited by
                        #3091

                        WTF, is he talking about?

                        Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One, Trump on Tuesday said Ukraine had "better come to the table fast."

                        Trump has previously signalled his impatience with the lack of swift progress in solving the four-year conflict.

                        I wonder why, the lack of progress?

                        Wait a minute…..

                        Anne Applebaum gets it. Why can’t the WH narcissist demagogue?

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote last edited by
                          #3092

                          Insanity.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote last edited by
                            #3093

                            Cleese cuts out an important portion of the interview - an even better short of the interview with Applebaum:

                            Elbows up!

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                            • AxtremusA Offline
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                              Axtremus
                              wrote last edited by
                              #3094

                              Yeah ... quite likely the alternative will put in a better team to deal with this. (And yes, I also saw the AOC thread.)

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                              • RenaudaR Offline
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                                Renauda
                                wrote last edited by
                                #3095

                                Indeed, Nikki Haley would have had professional diplomats and security specialist take the lead. Nor would she have let Putin con or intimidate the US.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • AxtremusA Offline
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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #3096

                                  NYT's news analysis starts leads with this headline:

                                  Trump Bets on Diplomacy Without Diplomats

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/17/us/politics/trump-witkoff-kushner-diplomacy.html

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                                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #3097

                                    Four years ago today. 😞

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      Four years ago today. 😞

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #3098

                                      @taiwan_girl

                                      Arthur Dron is a 22-year-old graduate student of journalism at Ivan Franko National University of Lviv. In 2020, Dron published his first collection of poetry, Dormitory №6, which has been translated into Lithuanian, English, Polish, Italian, and Belarusian. However, now, instead of visiting lectures and receiving awards for his work, he is protecting Ukraine on the battlefield and writing poems about the experience of war. Despite the gentle quietness of his poems, Dron’s voice is loud in the sphere of modern Ukrainian poetry both in Ukraine and abroad.

                                      First Letter to the Corinthians

                                      Love is patient. Love is kind.
                                      It is not jealous, is not pompous.
                                      Love is terrified like a beast
                                      but it perseveres.

                                      Love could give up and abandon it all
                                      but it perseveres
                                      Sometimes, love has gunshot wounds to
                                      its legs or bullet fragments lodged in
                                      them.

                                      Tourniquets squeeze love’s legs,
                                      or it has no legs anymore.
                                      Then love’s friends carry love.

                                      Love digs trenches and lives in them.
                                      It gnaws ice from the bottle cut in half
                                      when it gets thirsty at negative four.
                                      Love takes up combat duty,
                                      gets into position
                                      with hernias, fevers, prostatitis,
                                      with blast injuries,
                                      asthmas and allergies,
                                      with a high probability
                                      of not making it back,
                                      with thoughts about
                                      the most significant one.
                                      It bears all things, believes all things,
                                      hopes all things, endures all things!

                                      Love can distinguish by ear
                                      the shots of rocket launchers,
                                      the strikes of mortar shells, and
                                      the movement of tanks.
                                      Love’s eyes hurt when it stares into the
                                      thermal imager for too long.
                                      Love wakes up at night
                                      when the mice in the dugout crawl
                                      under its field coat.
                                      Sometimes, love vomits long in the
                                      trees after heavy combat.
                                      Every now and then, it closes the eyes of
                                      its friends.
                                      Love wraps them up in sleeping bags
                                      and carries them away.

                                      Love never fails!
                                      But where there are prophecies, they
                                      will cease;
                                      where there are tongues, they will
                                      be stilled;
                                      where there is knowledge, it will pass
                                      away.
                                      For sometimes, the shelling is over,
                                      and friends close Love’s eyes,
                                      wrap it up in a sleeping bag,
                                      and carry it away.

                                      And then it passes to the living.

                                      Background and analysis:

                                      https://nanovic.nd.edu/features/the-first-letter-to-the-corinthians/

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Offline
                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        Renauda
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #3099

                                        An excellent interview with Fiona Hill from yesterdays Global Story on BBC World Service:

                                        https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/w3ct71b2

                                        Elbows up!

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