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Invading Greenland - suicide.

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #36

    Read and reflect. Rosenberg gets it. The Kremlin has nothing but derision and mockery directed at Trump and his minions:

    In an astonishing article, the Russian government paper is full of praise for Trump and critical of European leaders who oppose a US annexation of Greenland.

    "Europe does not need the American greatness that Trump is promoting. Brussels is counting on 'drowning' the US president in the midterm congressional elections, on preventing him from concluding the greatest deal of his life."

    "Greatest deal"? The reporter explains what he means. I have to keep reminding myself I am reading the Russian government newspaper, not a pro-Trump publication in America.

    "With Greenland, the US becomes the second largest country in the world after Russia, surpassing Canada in area. For Americans, that's on par with such planetary events as the abolition of slavery by Abraham Lincoln in 1862 or the territorial conquests of the Napoleonic Wars.

    "If, thanks to Trump, Greenland becomes part of America…for sure the American people will not forget such an achievement."

    Then a message, presumably dictated word for word from the tyrant Putin himself:

    ”It is dangerous for the American president to back down over Greenland. This would weaken the position of the Republican Party in the midterm elections and likely result in a Democrat majority on Capitol Hill with the ensuing consequences for Trump. Whereas a rapid annexation of Greenland before the elections can change this political trend."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c17zpvkddpzo

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      #37

      Yes, but you’re not wildly impaired and bored. Bad combination.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Mik

        Yes, but you’re not wildly impaired and bored. Bad combination.

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        #38

        @Mik said in Invading Greenland - suicide.:

        Yes, but you’re not wildly impaired and bored. Bad combination.

        Especially when that combination gets behind the wheel and goes for a joy ride.

        Elbows up!

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          #39

          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/20/us/politics/republicans-trump-greenland.html

          A small but growing group of Republicans in Congress is expressing openness to President Trump’s increasingly explicit push to acquire Greenland, along with his desire to punish European allies who resist the idea.

          ... with the president stepping up his threats and showing no sign of backing down, Republicans across the ideological spectrum are increasingly finding ways to defend or justify his threats — or embrace them altogether.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/20/us/politics/republicans-trump-greenland.html

            A small but growing group of Republicans in Congress is expressing openness to President Trump’s increasingly explicit push to acquire Greenland, along with his desire to punish European allies who resist the idea.

            ... with the president stepping up his threats and showing no sign of backing down, Republicans across the ideological spectrum are increasingly finding ways to defend or justify his threats — or embrace them altogether.

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            @Axtremus Is this a surprise?

            (I have to admit that I was initially surprised that the Republicans so easily "rolled over" for some of President Trumps more outrageous ideas, but now I am surprised if any actually stand up to him.

            I suppose it will depend on what happens to the 2026 elections. If the Republics get beat very badly, then there may be more willing to stand up.

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              Not a surprise to me. It has been very obvious to me, for a long time, that the Republican Party has capitulated to Trump. Any former Republicans who stood up to Trump are just that, former (or retiring) Republicans.

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              • 89th8 Online
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                To me it distilled who was in it for power vs principle. The power folks are obvious...folks like Rubio, Cruz, and many others. Who would've thought you'd have a power republican president opposed by people like Bush, McCain, Romney, Cheney, Murkowski, Collins, Pence, Bolton........

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  #43

                  I don't really think Bolton will ever weigh in on the anti-power side of any real equation. Nor Cheney. Cheney was captured by his daughter, and changed due to that affiliation. As many do.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #44

                    Cheney’s more complicated I think. Yes they went after his daughter. (Trump went after Cruz’s wife too). But they also went after ‘the neocons’ of which he was a poster child. Trump made Jolly agree with my long held position about the Iraq war his base go against the Iraq war in both practice and principle. This was Cheney’s signature career accomplishment starting as DoD Sec in the 90s and even chairman of the house armed services committee before that.

                    He was also a Paul Ryan fiscal conservative.

                    MAGA’s treatment of his daughter may have been sufficient on its own, but Cheney’s aversion to Trump is overdetermined.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      The retcon that has occurred amongst a large number of "conservatives" regarding Iraq is something to behold.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        #46

                        It was funny to see all these maga types come around to my long held position about the war.

                        That was arguably the number one political point of contention in the first decade of TNCR.

                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          It was funny to see all these maga types come around to my long held position about the war.

                          That was arguably the number one political point of contention in the first decade of TNCR.

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                          @jon-nyc

                          I attributed it to voluntary selective amnesia of convenience.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • 89th8 Online
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                            If anyone needs a summary of what he rambled about at the World Economic Forum surrounded by some of the smartest people on the planet:

                            • Windmills are horrible
                            • A year ago we were a dead country (how many times do we need to hear this)
                            • Sleepy Joe Biden
                            • "We wouldn't even have NATO if it wasn't for me, I have done more for NATO than anyone else in history"
                            • "I know Putin very well. He would have never invaded Ukraine if I was president"
                            • "The 2020 election was rigged and we're going to prosecute people for it."
                            • "I am removing all regulations"
                            • "Coal is coming back, Green New Scam!"
                            • "I settled wars in one day"
                            • "Americans love me"
                            • "We won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force. I won't use force. All the US is asking for is a place called Greenland."
                            • "We're bringing back battleships"
                            • "We need to get Greenland, right, title and ownership. Psychologically, who wants to defend a license agreement, which is a large piece of ice in the middle of the ocean. All we want from Denmark...is this land on which we're going to build the greatest golden dome ever built."
                            • Canada should be grateful to us! Remember that Mark, the next time."
                            • I did a lot of big things, all perfectly executed!
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                              I’m likely the least educated of anyone here, but I had this wild thought: Does Putin hold anything over your U.S. president? If so, could Russia benefit in any way, like if your president actually acquired Greenland?

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                              • 89th8 Online
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                                #50

                                Sorry I forgot a few highlights from the speech:

                                • We have a weapon we can't talk about but it disabled Venezuela's weapons so they couldn't fire at us
                                • "Without us, right now you'd all be speaking German and a little Japanese perhaps. After the war, we gave Greenland back to Denmark. How stupid were we? But how ungrateful are they now?"
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                                  @89th Thanks . I like your concise summary. LOL

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