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  3. The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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    #86

    Somehow I doubt the bond markets will be fooled by this one. And guys like Rand Paul aren’t going to pretend it’s true either.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      Apparently the bill not only removes solar subsidies but actually taxes solar starting in 2027.

      While subsidizing coal.

      Republicans decided solar and batteries were gay energy so we lost to China all these industries we invented.

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              #91

              "Even a small fluctuation in power causes AI training to fail"?

              I am skeptical of that claim.

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                I have no idea either way. But it seems pretty clear that whether China or the US ‘wins’ AI matters a lot, and electricity figures large in that.

                We should be ‘all of the above’ x 100 rather than taxing modern “gay” energy while subsidizing 19th century “manly” energy.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    As budget gimmicks go, I don’t think this has ever been topped.

                    Senate Republicans are simultaneously using current policy scoring to pretend $3.8 trillion in tax cuts are free - and using current law scoring to get away with having temporary tax cuts appear $1.5 trillion cheaper.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      Kind of stupid to have the Democrat force the reading of the bill word by word. 16 hours. LOL

                      Not sure what they were trying to accomplish.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        As budget gimmicks go, I don’t think this has ever been topped.

                        Senate Republicans are simultaneously using current policy scoring to pretend $3.8 trillion in tax cuts are free - and using current law scoring to get away with having temporary tax cuts appear $1.5 trillion cheaper.

                        jon-nycJ Online
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                        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                        As budget gimmicks go, I don’t think this has ever been topped.

                        Senate Republicans are simultaneously using current policy scoring to pretend $3.8 trillion in tax cuts are free - and using current law scoring to get away with having temporary tax cuts appear $1.5 trillion cheaper.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          Elon threatens to find a primary challenge to every republican who votes for this bill.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            That will be interesting. As Musk said previously something like:

                            " President Trump will be around for three more years. Me (and my money) will be around for 30 more years."

                            How much influence will President Trump have after he is finished with the president? At least at the beginning, quite a bit. Obviously, a lot depends on how the next three years go. But, he will always have the strong support of ~30% of the population, no matter what he does or what happens. And those are the type of people who vote in the primary.

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                              Trump not happy.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                Elon threatens to find a primary challenge to every republican who votes for this bill.

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                                @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                Elon threatens to find a primary challenge to every republican who votes for this bill.

                                Of all the people who end with "...if it's the last thing I do on this Earth", he's the closest to actually building a place somewhere else in space to go.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  I have no idea either way. But it seems pretty clear that whether China or the US ‘wins’ AI matters a lot, and electricity figures large in that.

                                  We should be ‘all of the above’ x 100 rather than taxing modern “gay” energy while subsidizing 19th century “manly” energy.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                  We should be ‘all of the above’ x 100 rather than taxing modern “gay” energy while subsidizing 19th century “manly” energy.

                                  From the co-author of Abundance

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    Senate passed it.

                                    Now the fun goes back to the house.

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                                      In today's GOP, a "fiscal conservative" is someone who expresses "serious deficit concerns" about a $5 trillion bill before ultimately voting for it.

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                                          Shhhh!

                                          President Trump said it was okay to vote for this.

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