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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    #77

    I’ve helped Elon a lot,” Trump said.

    How so?

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      Bessent in Congress today:

      “50% of Americans are financially insecure. Do you think any of them are gonna suffer from the cuts in Medicaid, SNAP, and ACA?” - Moore

      “I believe they will be better off.” - Bessent

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        So he thinks the net effect of the bill will be to make them better off.

        Education is extremely important.

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          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/19/gop-budget-misleading-regressive/

            IMG_7641.jpeg

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              https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/22/senate-tax-bill-jct-score-00417131

              Senate GOP slashes megabill's tax costs with new accounting method

              The "new accounting method" basically do not account for extensions of the 2017 tax cuts as a "cost."

              So instead of $3.8 Trillion, using the "new accounting method," the Senate GOP's version of the bill is now said to cost only $440 Billion.

              They would still need to raise the debt ceiling by $5 Trillion (or suspend it altogether), but with this new accounting method they say the bill will cost only $440 Billion.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                Extending the Trump Tax Cuts from 2017 may or may not promote more growth than the CBO projects, but expiring the tax cuts kills any possibility for growth, and frankly renders the $5 fucking Trillion debt limit extension irrelevant.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Extending the Trump Tax Cuts from 2017 may or may not promote more growth than the CBO projects, but expiring the tax cuts kills any possibility for growth, and frankly renders the $5 fucking Trillion debt limit extension irrelevant.

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  Extending the Trump Tax Cuts from 2017 may or may not promote more growth than the CBO projects, but expiring the tax cuts kills any possibility for growth, and frankly renders the $5 fucking Trillion debt limit extension irrelevant.

                  It seems you have given up on the argument that says reducing the national deficit/debt can itself be pro growth.

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                    Several provisions in the Senate GOP’s version of President Donald Trump’s "big, beautiful bill" have run afoul of Senate rules and must be stripped if Republicans want to pass the package without the help of Democrats.

                    The bill is undergoing what’s called a "Byrd Bath," when the parliamentarian meticulously combs through each section of the mammoth bill to determine whether policies comport with the Senate’s Byrd Rule.

                    The point of the budget reconciliation process is to skirt the Senate filibuster and pass a massive, partisan legislative package. But if provisions are left in that fail the test, Senate Republicans will have to meet the typical 60-vote threshold. Provisions that don’t pass muster can still be appealed, however.

                    and

                    Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough scrutinized three chunks of the megabill from the Senate Banking, Environment and Public Works and Armed Services committees and found numerous policies that failed to meet the Byrd Rule’s requirements.

                    Among those was a provision that would have eliminated funding for a target of the GOP’s since its inception in 2008, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which would have effectively eliminated the agency. Doing so also would have slashed $6.4 billion in spending.

                    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/several-provisions-fail-pass-muster-senate-rules-big-beautiful-bill

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      Somehow I doubt the bond markets will be fooled by this one. And guys like Rand Paul aren’t going to pretend it’s true either.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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