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Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    In his resignation letter he said he had been willing to work with Kennedy but that “it has become clear that truth and transparency are not desired by the Secretary, but rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies”

    I’d be curious to know if anyone doubts this about RFk. Like do you think someone could carefully walk Kennedy through the existing evidence and he’d be like ‘Oh, yeah. Now I get it.’

    Or has his internalization of the many non-falsifiable retorts of the anti-vax community rendered him unable to accept any conclusion except the one pre-formed in his head years ago?

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      I hope he goes public with some more details about his interactions with RFK that led him to conclude that truth and transparency has no place. I'm will listen, but until then, we have one side of a story that began with Dr Marks being asked to leave, by RFK.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          He's already on record a month ago saying the MMR measles vaccine is the best way to prevent measles outbreaks.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            And on record before that calling it a holocaust.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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              He frequently contradicts himself, essentially meaning you can't believe he means anything he says.

              I was only joking

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              • MikM Away
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                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Tough love.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    RFK fired everybody on the vaccine advisory committee.

                    Senator Cassidy seems to know what's coming.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      I don't know that a bunch of people denying the science of vaccines constitutes a serious lack of public confidence. More like a lack of sense.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Thinking through his presidential examples. Guys my age might remember the ‘President’s Physical Fitness Test’. I looked it up, it’s from the Nixon administration. And it was inspired by an Eisenhower initiative.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

                        Thinking through his presidential examples. Guys my age might remember the ‘President’s Physical Fitness Test’. I looked it up, it’s from the Nixon administration. And it was inspired by an Eisenhower initiative.

                        Trump just signed an EO bringing this back.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        • jodiJ Offline
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                          I remember that. The only thing I could not do was throw the ball far enough. Did the boys do pull -ups? We did something called the flexed arm hang.

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            Yep. That was back when schools recognized that there material differences of body composition between boys and girls, and they don’t go away just because the boy has ladyfeelz.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                Trump administration to ban Covid vaccines?

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  Four top resignations at CDC including the head who was just sworn in a few weeks ago.

                                  Apparently they don’t want their names associated with the witch doctors the nanny state leftist crank has put in charge of vaccine policy.

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/us-approves-latest-covid-shots-with-new-limits-on-who-gets-them

                                    The FDA approved an updated Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine for adults 65 and older.

                                    Younger people, between 5 and 64, are eligible if they have at least one underlying health condition putting them at high risk for severe outcomes from the virus.
                                    "FDA has now issued marketing authorization for those at higher risk: Moderna (6+ months), Pfizer (5+), and Novavax (12+)," Kennedy said.

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                                    • 89th8 Online
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                                      My wife just sent me the FDA update. Our normal fall flu (and COVID) shots for us and the kids I guess will just be flu shots now.

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                                        Donald Trump to the rescue???

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                                          Sod off Mr. Kennedy…..

                                          Aug 11 (Reuters) - An influential U.S. medical journal is rejecting a call from Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to retract a large Danish study that found that aluminum ingredients in vaccines do not increase health risks for children, the journal's editor told Reuters.

                                          https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/medical-journal-rejects-kennedys-call-for-retraction-vaccine-study-2025-08-11/

                                          Elbows up!

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