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Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake

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  • MikM Offline
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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      RFK forced out Dr Peter Marks, head of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research at FDA, which oversees vaccines.

      He was given the choice to be fired or resign.

      In his resignation letter he said he had been willing to work with Kennedy but that “it has become clear that truth and transparency are not desired by the Secretary, but rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies”

      I’ve met with him several times and was always impressed with his desire to get treatments to patients. Gene therapy fell under him and he was a champion of its possibilities.

      Can’t wait to see what dangerous crank he replaces him with.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Silos & Fiefdoms

        https://amgreatness.com/2025/03/28/rfk-jr-unveils-plan-to-transform-hhs-into-maha-powerhouse-were-going-to-do-more-with-less

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          “We’re not going to cut Medicaid. We’re not going to cut Medicare,” he stated firmly.

          Is there any on TNCR that believes this?

          Anyone at all?

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            @jon-nyc said in Beyond the antivaxx stuff MAHA is either banal or fake:

            I’ve met with him several times and was always impressed with his desire to get treatments to patients. Gene therapy fell under him and he was a champion of its possibilities.

            Can’t wait to see what dangerous crank he replaces him with.

            I suspect there’s a high correlation between antivaxx thinking and anti-GMO thinking among the granola chick/MAHA crank set.

            I hope that doesn’t spill over into anti-gene therapy in humans.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                In his resignation letter he said he had been willing to work with Kennedy but that “it has become clear that truth and transparency are not desired by the Secretary, but rather he wishes subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies”

                I’d be curious to know if anyone doubts this about RFk. Like do you think someone could carefully walk Kennedy through the existing evidence and he’d be like ‘Oh, yeah. Now I get it.’

                Or has his internalization of the many non-falsifiable retorts of the anti-vax community rendered him unable to accept any conclusion except the one pre-formed in his head years ago?

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  I hope he goes public with some more details about his interactions with RFK that led him to conclude that truth and transparency has no place. I'm will listen, but until then, we have one side of a story that began with Dr Marks being asked to leave, by RFK.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      He's already on record a month ago saying the MMR measles vaccine is the best way to prevent measles outbreaks.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        And on record before that calling it a holocaust.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                          He frequently contradicts himself, essentially meaning you can't believe he means anything he says.

                          I was only joking

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                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              Tough love.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                RFK fired everybody on the vaccine advisory committee.

                                Senator Cassidy seems to know what's coming.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  I don't know that a bunch of people denying the science of vaccines constitutes a serious lack of public confidence. More like a lack of sense.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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