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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

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    wrote last edited by
    #2825

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

    For all his, "awe shuks" and "yes" and "no ma'am" he's the smartest guy in the Senate.

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    • Tom-KT Tom-K

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

      For all his, "awe shuks" and "yes" and "no ma'am" he's the smartest guy in the Senate.

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      #2826

      @Tom-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

      For all his, "awe shuks" and "yes" and "no ma'am" he's the smartest guy in the Senate.

      I'm sure he loves it when people underestimate him.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
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        #2827

        Well at least Russia has moved past some its medieval mythology to justify the war. It’s now moved on to early modern history lessons from the time Peter the Great:

        “The Great Northern War with Sweden lasted 21 years. Twenty-one years. But just a few years after it began, Peter the Great offered peace to the Swedes… What did the Swedes say? ‘No, we will fight to the last Swede’,” Medinsky said in an interview with pro-Kremlin TV host Yevgeny Popov.

        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/05/16/kremlin-negotiator-invokes-peter-the-greats-21-year-war-with-sweden-in-ukraine-talks-a89109

        Still, the Russians get the history of the war with Sweden wrong and lay a back handed insult to all members of NATO at the same time. But that is only to be expected of an aggressor state.

        Kremlin is not interested in any terms short of Ukraine’s total capitulation.

        Elbows up!

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        • KlausK Klaus

          Any idea what kind of weapon causes an explosion like this?

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          #2828

          @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Any idea what kind of weapon causes an explosion like this?

          Hi Klaus, sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you on this. No, I don't know what sort of weapon might cause an explosion like that.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
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            #2829

            I can’t see what or when Klaus posted it.

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Offline
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              #2830

              It still has Twitter as the site, so probably old.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                #2831

                I can only guess - possibly a thermobaric rocket mortar. Nasty for sure, but effective and permissible as an anti-infantry weapon. Sucks the O2 out of the blast area. Russians have used them regularly since the 2022 invasion.

                Elbows up!

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                  #2832

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/23/ukraine-russia-drones-fiberoptic-jamming/

                  Fiber optic drones -- drones that fly tethered to a fiber optic strand; not susceptible to wireless signal jammers. The article says something about "12 miles" range and risk of cable entanglements. Hard for me to imagine a flying object going 12 miles tethered to a cable, much less a swarm of those going at the same time. 🤷

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #2833

                    "Trump felt that he knew Putin and that the Russian leader would end the war as a personal favor."

                    https://archive.ph/GX4bM#selection-3179.9-3179.105

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      #2834

                      Delusional.

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        wrote last edited by Renauda
                        #2835

                        Nothing happened to Putin, he is what he always has been. A KGB hood.

                        Trump is only beginning to come to terms that Putin has all along been playing him for the political Muggins he really is. The latter is not the least bit serious of agreeing to any peace deal short of the total capitulation of Ukraine to Russia’s stated objectives.

                        Yesterday’s comment from the Kremlin that Trump is merely experiencing “emotional overload” is a patronising insult designed to show the total disregard Putin himself holds towards Trump as a leader and person.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #2836

                          Putin lays out his conditions. Basically keep all the territory, no NATO, lft sanctions and give us our frozen assets.

                          "Bygones".

                          He's probably thinking he's gone as far as he can with this and there's nothing more to be gained.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-lays-out-conditions-to-end-ukraine-war-reuters-reveals-list/ar-AA1FDwZ5

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
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                            The article leaves out a few salient points. Namely that Ukraine must give up all occupied and annexed but unoccupied Ukrainian territory and that NATO must abandon its open door policy regarding membership. As well, the term neutrality in context of Ukraine means becoming a puppet state of the Kremlin.

                            There are no concessions in the stated proposal outline. Rather they are terms of surrender for Ukraine, the US and the Western Alliance. Quite unacceptable to my thinking on the matter.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              #2838

                              Agreed. I think we stay the course. But I thought that to begin with.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                #2839

                                Yes, stay the course and up the ante. I am of the mind that so long as Putin is in the Kremlin there can be no chance of peace.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  wrote last edited by
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                                  Not a reliable one, anyway.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #2841

                                    Putin might be locking out US diplomatic efforts towards a settlement.

                                    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/53548

                                    Personally I think the Kremlin is about to deliver a one way ultimatum for Kyiv’s unconditional surrender.

                                    Elbows up!

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