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The Ukraine war thread

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #2835

    Nothing happened to Putin, he is what he always has been. A KGB hood.

    Trump is only beginning to come to terms that Putin has all along been playing him for the political Muggins he really is. The latter is not the least bit serious of agreeing to any peace deal short of the total capitulation of Ukraine to Russia’s stated objectives.

    Yesterday’s comment from the Kremlin that Trump is merely experiencing “emotional overload” is a patronising insult designed to show the total disregard Putin himself holds towards Trump as a leader and person.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      wrote last edited by
      #2836

      Putin lays out his conditions. Basically keep all the territory, no NATO, lft sanctions and give us our frozen assets.

      "Bygones".

      He's probably thinking he's gone as far as he can with this and there's nothing more to be gained.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-lays-out-conditions-to-end-ukraine-war-reuters-reveals-list/ar-AA1FDwZ5

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        wrote last edited by
        #2837

        The article leaves out a few salient points. Namely that Ukraine must give up all occupied and annexed but unoccupied Ukrainian territory and that NATO must abandon its open door policy regarding membership. As well, the term neutrality in context of Ukraine means becoming a puppet state of the Kremlin.

        There are no concessions in the stated proposal outline. Rather they are terms of surrender for Ukraine, the US and the Western Alliance. Quite unacceptable to my thinking on the matter.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote last edited by Mik
          #2838

          Agreed. I think we stay the course. But I thought that to begin with.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            wrote last edited by
            #2839

            Yes, stay the course and up the ante. I am of the mind that so long as Putin is in the Kremlin there can be no chance of peace.

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Offline
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              wrote last edited by
              #2840

              Not a reliable one, anyway.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote last edited by Renauda
                #2841

                Putin might be locking out US diplomatic efforts towards a settlement.

                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/53548

                Personally I think the Kremlin is about to deliver a one way ultimatum for Kyiv’s unconditional surrender.

                Elbows up!

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #2842

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    #2843

                    Link to video

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      wrote last edited by Renauda
                      #2844

                      Two weeks depending only if Witkoff can find a qualified interpreter not in the pay of the Kremlin…..if not, longer, or possibly not at all.

                      Elbows up!

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