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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by
    #2820

    Face palm

    Elbows up!

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Amateur hour continues. He uses a Russian interpreter instead of bringing his own.

      taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
      wrote last edited by
      #2821

      @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Amateur hour continues. He uses a Russian interpreter instead of bringing his own

      I read about that. That is just crazy!!!

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote last edited by
        #2822

        No better way to tell the Kremlin that not only are you not willing to play any of the cards you can play, but you have never been the least bit serious about the diplomatic initiative you have launched from the onset. A clown show.

        Elbows up!

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        • W Do not disturb
          W Do not disturb
          Wim
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          #2823

          Medvedev speaking bluntly:

          https://www.yahoo.com/news/moscow-rejects-kievs-peace-plan-152431680.html

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote last edited by Renauda
            #2824

            No surprise. Further proof that Kremlin is not serious about peace talks with Ukraine. In absence of Putin at least send the obnoxious foreign minister, Lavrov to meet with the Ukrainians for the meeting Putin ordered in the first place. Zelenskyi and a couple of his ministers will be there tomorrow and Friday. Word has it that so will Rubio.

            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqe9g0vn57o

            And here:

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/05/14/putin-taps-kremlin-aide-medinsky-to-lead-new-istanbul-talks-with-ukraine-a89086

            Like Republican Senator Kennedy of Louisiana pointed out a couple weeks back, Putin is playing the US (read: Trump Administration) for a bunch of chumps.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

              Tom-KT Offline
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              #2825

              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

              For all his, "awe shuks" and "yes" and "no ma'am" he's the smartest guy in the Senate.

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              • Tom-KT Tom-K

                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

                For all his, "awe shuks" and "yes" and "no ma'am" he's the smartest guy in the Senate.

                HoraceH Online
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                Horace
                wrote last edited by
                #2826

                @Tom-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Kennedy gets it, in fact, he got it all along.

                For all his, "awe shuks" and "yes" and "no ma'am" he's the smartest guy in the Senate.

                I'm sure he loves it when people underestimate him.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #2827

                  Well at least Russia has moved past some its medieval mythology to justify the war. It’s now moved on to early modern history lessons from the time Peter the Great:

                  “The Great Northern War with Sweden lasted 21 years. Twenty-one years. But just a few years after it began, Peter the Great offered peace to the Swedes… What did the Swedes say? ‘No, we will fight to the last Swede’,” Medinsky said in an interview with pro-Kremlin TV host Yevgeny Popov.

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/05/16/kremlin-negotiator-invokes-peter-the-greats-21-year-war-with-sweden-in-ukraine-talks-a89109

                  Still, the Russians get the history of the war with Sweden wrong and lay a back handed insult to all members of NATO at the same time. But that is only to be expected of an aggressor state.

                  Kremlin is not interested in any terms short of Ukraine’s total capitulation.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    Any idea what kind of weapon causes an explosion like this?

                    HoraceH Online
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                    Horace
                    wrote last edited by
                    #2828

                    @Klaus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Any idea what kind of weapon causes an explosion like this?

                    Hi Klaus, sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you on this. No, I don't know what sort of weapon might cause an explosion like that.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote last edited by
                      #2829

                      I can’t see what or when Klaus posted it.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
                        wrote last edited by
                        #2830

                        It still has Twitter as the site, so probably old.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote last edited by Renauda
                          #2831

                          I can only guess - possibly a thermobaric rocket mortar. Nasty for sure, but effective and permissible as an anti-infantry weapon. Sucks the O2 out of the blast area. Russians have used them regularly since the 2022 invasion.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • AxtremusA Offline
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #2832

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/23/ukraine-russia-drones-fiberoptic-jamming/

                            Fiber optic drones -- drones that fly tethered to a fiber optic strand; not susceptible to wireless signal jammers. The article says something about "12 miles" range and risk of cable entanglements. Hard for me to imagine a flying object going 12 miles tethered to a cable, much less a swarm of those going at the same time. 🤷

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              #2833

                              "Trump felt that he knew Putin and that the Russian leader would end the war as a personal favor."

                              https://archive.ph/GX4bM#selection-3179.9-3179.105

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • 89th8 Online
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                                #2834

                                Delusional.

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                                • RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                                  #2835

                                  Nothing happened to Putin, he is what he always has been. A KGB hood.

                                  Trump is only beginning to come to terms that Putin has all along been playing him for the political Muggins he really is. The latter is not the least bit serious of agreeing to any peace deal short of the total capitulation of Ukraine to Russia’s stated objectives.

                                  Yesterday’s comment from the Kremlin that Trump is merely experiencing “emotional overload” is a patronising insult designed to show the total disregard Putin himself holds towards Trump as a leader and person.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #2836

                                    Putin lays out his conditions. Basically keep all the territory, no NATO, lft sanctions and give us our frozen assets.

                                    "Bygones".

                                    He's probably thinking he's gone as far as he can with this and there's nothing more to be gained.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-lays-out-conditions-to-end-ukraine-war-reuters-reveals-list/ar-AA1FDwZ5

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #2837

                                      The article leaves out a few salient points. Namely that Ukraine must give up all occupied and annexed but unoccupied Ukrainian territory and that NATO must abandon its open door policy regarding membership. As well, the term neutrality in context of Ukraine means becoming a puppet state of the Kremlin.

                                      There are no concessions in the stated proposal outline. Rather they are terms of surrender for Ukraine, the US and the Western Alliance. Quite unacceptable to my thinking on the matter.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote last edited by Mik
                                        #2838

                                        Agreed. I think we stay the course. But I thought that to begin with.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #2839

                                          Yes, stay the course and up the ante. I am of the mind that so long as Putin is in the Kremlin there can be no chance of peace.

                                          Elbows up!

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