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Will we have a free election in 28? Or even 26?

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @jon-nyc said in Will we have a free election in 28? Or even 26?:

    Why should I believe any of these three propositions:

    1. Trump will accept a loss (even with him not on the ballot) without claiming it was fraud.

    It will depend on how close it is.

    1. Trump won’t order DoJ (or even DoD) to seize voting machines, etc

    No standing. These are state elections with state law enforcement.

    1. Pam Bondi and Kash Patel won’t comply with such an order.

    Whether they do or not is irrelevant. The Court has shown their willingness to stand up to him. I suspect Congress is as well.

    If you think my concern is misplaced tell me why rather than just say I’m deranged.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Will we have a free election in 28? Or even 26?:

    It will depend on how close it is.

    He claims he won the popular vote in California as well as nationally in 2016. Not exactly close.

    No standing. These are state elections with state law enforcement.

    That’s a court decision. He can send Kash’s goons to collect machines without going to courts. Yeah the states could sue but not until after he’s got them.

    Whether they do or not is irrelevant. The Court has shown their willingness to stand up to him. I suspect Congress is as well.

    Congress would in 28, as it’ll be democratically controlled. Which is why I’m concerned about 26.

    But really it comes down to whether he’ll defy the courts, as his VP and most maga influencers are already asking him to.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Maybe this will give you a clue:

      https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5266301-trump-memo-targeting-actblue/amp/

      [Trump] directs Attorney General Pam Bondi to investigate allegations of straw donations and contributions made from foreigners, according to a White House official.

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        SCOTUS is great until you realize they don’t have a way to enforce shit

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        • 89th8 89th

          SCOTUS is great until you realize they don’t have a way to enforce shit

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          @89th said in Will we have a free election in 28? Or even 26?:

          SCOTUS is great until you realize they don’t have a way to enforce shit

          Theories about Trump remaining in power just because he chooses to, are great, until you realize he doesn't have a way to enforce staying in power. Except through a military coup. And round and round the argument goes. I promise, any story where Trump steals the presidency, is a theft by force. Military, police, etc. There has never been a coherent story where Trump steals the presidency through paperwork.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Away
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            A military backed coup is theoretically possible in the US, but it won’t be for Trump. You can take that to the bank.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              #28

              Am with Mik on this. 😗

              Elbows up!

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                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-2028-apparel-sale-trump-organizations-online-store-rcna202856

                The Trump Organization has begun selling red hats online with the slogan "Trump 2028" embroidered in bright white along the front, as well as T-shirts with the slogan.

                The hats were listed for $50 with the description: "The future looks bright! Rewrite the rules with the Trump 2028 high crown hat. Fully embroidered with a snap closure in the back, this will become your new go-to hat."

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  Well, it could be another Trump.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    I heard a hypothesis that Trump likes to imagine the possibility of Trump 2028, and likes to put the possibility out there, so he can feel he's not a lame duck president. So he can act and be treated as if he's not lame duck. Makes sense.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      I doubt he’d be treated as a lame duck anyway, at least by the GOP, what with his control over his ~40MM mindslaves.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        For the immediate future, will he accept the results of the Canadian election? He's said that the Canadians really want to be part of the US, however this seems a tad controversial, so it's just conceivable that he could be mistaken. Hard to countenance such a thing, I know.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          For the immediate future, will he accept the results of the Canadian election? He's said that the Canadians really want to be part of the US, however this seems a tad controversial, so it's just conceivable that he could be mistaken. Hard to countenance such a thing, I know.

                          MikM Away
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Will we have a free election in 28? Or even 26?:

                          the Canadians really want to be part of the US

                          Said no Canadian ever.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            For the immediate future, will he accept the results of the Canadian election? He's said that the Canadians really want to be part of the US, however this seems a tad controversial, so it's just conceivable that he could be mistaken. Hard to countenance such a thing, I know.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes

                            Trump had better, seeing that his policy of tariffs and other assorted threats against Canadian sovereignty have single-handedly stolen the election from the Conservative Party of Canada and all but ensured a Liberal Party majority on Monday evening.

                            @Mik

                            Said no Canadian ever.

                            I wish. Sadly, there are a few out here who have crawled out from under their rocks thinking the Trump path to salvation is the new and immutable gospel. I expect they will follow the lead of their MAGAt brethren and demand obedience from the majority of the country following Monday’s election. The rather inept premier of Alberta plays to their anger and keeps it stoked.

                            Elbows up!

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