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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 17 Apr 2025, 19:01 last edited by
    #717

    Indeed they did. I had an 86 ford tempo in 1990, already a cheap used car by then, that almost bankrupted me with repair bills.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      17 Apr 2025, 17:10

      I agree he doesn’t want to be known as the guy that destroyed the economy. I think the problem is he thinks these tariffs really will usher in a new era of American prosperity and that both the market and economic experts are just wrong.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 17 Apr 2025, 19:44 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

      I agree he doesn’t want to be known as the guy that destroyed the economy. I think the problem is he thinks these tariffs really will usher in a new era of American prosperity and that both the market and economic experts are just wrong.

      Been saying he's channeling McKinley.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • L LuFins Dad
        17 Apr 2025, 18:48

        The simple act of building the factories makes it impossible. You can reshore some critical manufacturing capabilities, but it will need some subsidizing and a lot of deregulation to get the factories up and running, and it will still require competition. While I still think American Car manufacturing is pretty piss poor, the Japanese competition did force them to get a little better…

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        Jolly
        wrote on 17 Apr 2025, 19:51 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

        The simple act of building the factories makes it impossible. You can reshore some critical manufacturing capabilities, but it will need some subsidizing and a lot of deregulation to get the factories up and running, and it will still require competition. While I still think American Car manufacturing is pretty piss poor, the Japanese competition did force them to get a little better…

        Trump Admin is claiming $7T investment coming to America. I'm sure that's inflated, but look at the marching orders that went to the agencies about rules that have made up out of whole cloth. Washington should soon be in a deregulation frenzy.

        Less regulation burdens, no tariffs, a Navy ship building program, etc. Maybe the world gets the hint we're in the business for business?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 17 Apr 2025, 20:59 last edited by jon-nyc
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          They’re both fair questions.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Jolly
            wrote 30 days ago last edited by
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            I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.

            You want to play justice warrior for your pet cause, especially using illegal protests to do so or protesting for a terrorist organization? I think your time in America will be brief and rightly so.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              30 days ago

              I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.

              You want to play justice warrior for your pet cause, especially using illegal protests to do so or protesting for a terrorist organization? I think your time in America will be brief and rightly so.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote 30 days ago last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

              I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.

              Sure we are.

              If you are a foreign student looking to study abroad, and you have a choice of lets say, US, UK, Australia, etc. you may give less thought to the US, regardless if you are a pure angel or not.

              I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.

              US universities like them as they pay full amount to go to school. I know of quite a few Chinese students at schools like Univ. of IL, and they are all paying list price of USD$50K per year. (They may be getting some sort of subsidy from their home country, but not from the US school).

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                30 days ago

                @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.

                Sure we are.

                If you are a foreign student looking to study abroad, and you have a choice of lets say, US, UK, Australia, etc. you may give less thought to the US, regardless if you are a pure angel or not.

                I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.

                US universities like them as they pay full amount to go to school. I know of quite a few Chinese students at schools like Univ. of IL, and they are all paying list price of USD$50K per year. (They may be getting some sort of subsidy from their home country, but not from the US school).

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                Jolly
                wrote 30 days ago last edited by
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                @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.

                Good.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  30 days ago

                  @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                  I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.

                  Good.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote 30 days ago last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                  I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.

                  Good.

                  Now that you think about it, Elon first came here with a student visa.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote 30 days ago last edited by
                    #725

                    American winemakers talk tariffs:

                    https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/04/17/g-s1-60718/tariffs-make-sour-grapes-american-winemakers

                    Will American winemakers win with tariffs? The ones we spoke with don't seem to think so.

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                      AndyD
                      wrote 30 days ago last edited by
                      #726

                      Trump(CF) teaching everyone his way is the best

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                        End of Q1 numbers. I will update as the missing ones come in, and plan on updating this every quarter. If anybody feels something else should be on here (economically), let me know. 🙂

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                          89th
                          wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                          Cost of gas is down, even to $1.98! Umm the national average was $3.22 on 1/20 and $3.29 as of yesterday.

                          Cost of eggs have gone down 92%! They were $6.55 on 1/20 and $3.11 as of yesterday. Thats like 47%?

                          What idiots does he have feeding him data, I’m guessing only sycophants have access to him.

                          Link to video

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                            89th
                            wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                            Oh and the clip ends but he starts rambling about how the federal reserve doesn’t have anyone smart there and that Powell is playing politics.

                            What a disaster.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                              Link to video

                              TL;DR version:

                              • Delta: doesn’t want to pay tariffs on incoming Airbus aircraft; willing to delay taking delivery
                              • Airbus: OK, we accelerate delivery to other customers eager to take delivery earlier
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                                Amazing what little support he has for this shit. And yet the house gop still sits paralyzed.

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                  It's ironic since they'll be massacred in 2026 anyway, as if Trump's support will be helpful then. It'll be a repeat of 2018, but on Solfeggio steroids.

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                                    AndyD
                                    wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                    Thing is as China and America face off, it seems clear one has a massive advantage...
                                    A country led by a brutal autocrat unmindful of his peoples suffering and perfectly willing to give up their living standards to win whatever the cost.
                                    But Xi is a tough old bastard too so let's not write off China just yet.

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                                      28 days ago

                                      It's ironic since they'll be massacred in 2026 anyway, as if Trump's support will be helpful then. It'll be a repeat of 2018, but on Solfeggio steroids.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                      @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                      It's ironic since they'll be massacred in 2026 anyway, as if Trump's support will be helpful then. It'll be a repeat of 2018, but on Solfeggio steroids.

                                      Why do you say that? Trump actually has a more people liking him than ever before and has fewer people disliking him than ever before…

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                                      I mean, it’s nuts, but it’s where we are at…

                                      The Brad

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                        The world trade war has yet to make its effects felt, beyond a dip in the stock market which is still pricing in some optimism that sanity will prevail.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          28 days ago

                                          The world trade war has yet to make its effects felt, beyond a dip in the stock market which is still pricing in some optimism that sanity will prevail.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                          The world trade war has yet to make its effects felt, beyond a dip in the stock market which is still pricing in some optimism that sanity will prevail.

                                          Okay. But, let’s lean into that optimism for a minute… What happens if over the next 60-80 days DJT does come to some new and more favorable trade deals? What happens if you see say another $1T in commitments to build new US factories? What happens to the market at that point? Especially if the tax cuts gets extended and the deregulation efforts take hold? What do you think the market looks like in September if we see these results?

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