Trumpenomics
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That's quite a socialistic viewpoint. Or maybe not. Society's benefit over individual loss?
Who knows what would have happened to the USA if WW2 hadn't happened?
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Alright - so step 1, stock market down. Step 2 - destroy a large portion of all other major countries. Step 3 - profit.
On to step 2, I guess?
@xenon said in Trumpenomics:
Alright - so step 1, stock market down. Step 2 - destroy a large portion of all other major countries. Step 3 - profit.
On to step 2, I guess?
Underwear Gnomes?
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Trump's most imbecilic trade advisors, Navarro and Lutnik, each called out the fact that large tech stocks were the main reason the stock market was doing so well. This was presented as a bad thing. Taking down America's most successful public companies may not be the goal, but it is certainly an acceptable loss, to the people behind the policies. But I remain cautiously confident that Trump does not want to be known for all those great and famous American companies getting clobbered. Lutnik and Navarro don't care, but I'm guessing that Trump does. Of course, even if Trump cares, his abject insanity regarding trade policies may prevent him from doing the right things to keep those companies healthy. He still thinks IPhones can be made in America.
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I agree he doesn’t want to be known as the guy that destroyed the economy. I think the problem is he thinks these tariffs really will usher in a new era of American prosperity and that both the market and economic experts are just wrong.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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Unfortunately, even though I am not an economist, I pretty sure it is not possible to increase labor costs by 10X or so and be able to sell the product (for example iPhone) for the same or lower price. LOL
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It’s not even particularly desirable. An iPhone sells for $1000, costs about $400 to make and about $100 of that value is driven by China.
Would we rather have Huawei in America with $100 going to American manufacturing (just assume that’s possible) - or the current state of an American company (Apple) with $100 going to China?
The way Trump talks, he’d take the former.
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It’s not even particularly desirable. An iPhone sells for $1000, costs about $400 to make and about $100 of that value is driven by China.
Would we rather have Huawei in America with $100 going to American manufacturing (just assume that’s possible) - or the current state of an American company (Apple) with $100 going to China?
The way Trump talks, he’d take the former.
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The simple act of building the factories makes it impossible. You can reshore some critical manufacturing capabilities, but it will need some subsidizing and a lot of deregulation to get the factories up and running, and it will still require competition. While I still think American Car manufacturing is pretty piss poor, the Japanese competition did force them to get a little better…
The Brad
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I agree he doesn’t want to be known as the guy that destroyed the economy. I think the problem is he thinks these tariffs really will usher in a new era of American prosperity and that both the market and economic experts are just wrong.
@jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:
I agree he doesn’t want to be known as the guy that destroyed the economy. I think the problem is he thinks these tariffs really will usher in a new era of American prosperity and that both the market and economic experts are just wrong.
Been saying he's channeling McKinley.
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The simple act of building the factories makes it impossible. You can reshore some critical manufacturing capabilities, but it will need some subsidizing and a lot of deregulation to get the factories up and running, and it will still require competition. While I still think American Car manufacturing is pretty piss poor, the Japanese competition did force them to get a little better…
@LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:
The simple act of building the factories makes it impossible. You can reshore some critical manufacturing capabilities, but it will need some subsidizing and a lot of deregulation to get the factories up and running, and it will still require competition. While I still think American Car manufacturing is pretty piss poor, the Japanese competition did force them to get a little better…
Trump Admin is claiming $7T investment coming to America. I'm sure that's inflated, but look at the marching orders that went to the agencies about rules that have made up out of whole cloth. Washington should soon be in a deregulation frenzy.
Less regulation burdens, no tariffs, a Navy ship building program, etc. Maybe the world gets the hint we're in the business for business?
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I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.
You want to play justice warrior for your pet cause, especially using illegal protests to do so or protesting for a terrorist organization? I think your time in America will be brief and rightly so.
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I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.
You want to play justice warrior for your pet cause, especially using illegal protests to do so or protesting for a terrorist organization? I think your time in America will be brief and rightly so.
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.
Sure we are.
If you are a foreign student looking to study abroad, and you have a choice of lets say, US, UK, Australia, etc. you may give less thought to the US, regardless if you are a pure angel or not.
I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.
US universities like them as they pay full amount to go to school. I know of quite a few Chinese students at schools like Univ. of IL, and they are all paying list price of USD$50K per year. (They may be getting some sort of subsidy from their home country, but not from the US school).
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@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
I don't think we're deterring students from coming here, if they're coming to study.
Sure we are.
If you are a foreign student looking to study abroad, and you have a choice of lets say, US, UK, Australia, etc. you may give less thought to the US, regardless if you are a pure angel or not.
I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.
US universities like them as they pay full amount to go to school. I know of quite a few Chinese students at schools like Univ. of IL, and they are all paying list price of USD$50K per year. (They may be getting some sort of subsidy from their home country, but not from the US school).
@taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:
I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.
Good.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:
I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.
Good.
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
@taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:
I am guess that 4 years from now, foreign students in the US will have decreased by at least 10-20%.
Good.
Now that you think about it, Elon first came here with a student visa.
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American winemakers talk tariffs:
Will American winemakers win with tariffs? The ones we spoke with don't seem to think so.
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End of Q1 numbers. I will update as the missing ones come in, and plan on updating this every quarter. If anybody feels something else should be on here (economically), let me know.
