Scrap the debates
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wrote on 4 Aug 2020, 17:06 last edited by
Good chance you’re all being punked by the Biden campaign just trying to lower expectations. Meanwhile he’s experimenting with different doses of adderall and equivalents to see what will make him sharp as hell for three hours when it most counts.
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The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html
wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 19:56 last edited by@George-K said in Scrap the debates:
The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html
Heh...
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This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.
wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 20:41 last edited by@Horace said in Scrap the debates:
This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.
He would tell one grandious lie after another forcing his opponent to either ignore the lie or spend the whole debate debunking the lies. That man sucks the oxygen out of room when he opens his mouth.
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This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.
wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 20:43 last edited by@Horace said in Scrap the debates:
This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.
Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 21:04 last edited by
Surprised Bill Kristol would trash precedent and tradition. Seems short sighted.
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@Horace said in Scrap the debates:
This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.
Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.
wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 21:14 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:
@Horace said in Scrap the debates:
This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.
Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.
Thank you for rephrasing that in a way that doesn't indicate that Trump is competent at anything. It's important to make sure we cleanse all conversation of such ideas.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 23:13 last edited by
Trump can hold his own with Biden when it comes to producing unintelligible word salad. He’s probably better at it in fact.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 23:39 last edited by
Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.
Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.
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Trump can hold his own with Biden when it comes to producing unintelligible word salad. He’s probably better at it in fact.
wrote on 12 Aug 2020, 23:59 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:
Trump can hold his own with Biden when it comes to producing unintelligible word salad. He’s probably better at it in fact.
Minus the brown outs. Biden’s first blackout is going to be very scary. He’s getting closer to Stockdale by the day.
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Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.
Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.
wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 00:39 last edited by@Horace said in Scrap the debates:
Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.
Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.
As I’ve said before, Trump doesn’t get penalized for his word salad like Biden does. He’s graded on a curve. None of his supporters need him to make sense.
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@Horace said in Scrap the debates:
Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.
Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.
As I’ve said before, Trump doesn’t get penalized for his word salad like Biden does. He’s graded on a curve. None of his supporters need him to make sense.
wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 00:58 last edited byRandom insults aimed at unnamed citizens, classic TDS
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wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 01:00 last edited by
jon is wary of unfair reactions in favor of Trump, lol.
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wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 01:19 last edited by
I’m not worried actually. I think the GOP has overplayed this and have set very low expectations for the debate.
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wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 01:29 last edited by
Trump is a lot like AOC. They don’t need to make sense, they just need to emote in the resonant frequency of their respective tribes.
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Trump is a lot like AOC. They don’t need to make sense, they just need to emote in the resonant frequency of their respective tribes.
wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 01:37 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:
Trump is a lot like AOC. They don’t need to make sense, they just need to emote in the resonant frequency of their respective tribes.
But unlike AOC, coronavirus aside, he produced results that defied expectations and actually were amazing. So tough to swallow I admit.
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wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 01:41 last edited by
Considering the certainty that Biden will make exactly the noises his tribe coaches him to make, it is difficult to see him as anything but a properly pedigreed tribal noise maker. Which I can totally understand is preferable to Trump, to many.
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wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 01:52 last edited by jon-nyc
You’re high.
Unemployment hit a local minimum before hitting a 90 year maximum.
Like with virtually every president before him, the stock market hit new highs. But then much of gains were given back.
The world is less stable than how he found it and our position in it less secure.
The internal stability of the nation is at either a 50- or 150- year low (it’s too early to tell which).
He’s not even tried to manage the pandemic, rather he manages news cycles within it. And he only does that when a Fox personality guilts him into it.
The country is in far worse shape than it was 4 years ago.
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wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 01:57 last edited by
As of January 2020, per the state of the union address, the USA was in its best shape EVAH. The pandemic is likely a finite issue, and I think people know that. BLM and associated protests are becoming blah, as expected.
Can people blame Trump for his handling of the pandemic? Sure. I blame him, to an extent.
But I think Trump will have enough stats to throw out to generally deflect the predictable jabs Biden will make. He will have more energy and better jabs than Biden will and Biden risks having forgetful or mumbling moments, plus his teeth might even fall out.
These debates are Trump’s to lose.
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You’re high.
Unemployment hit a local minimum before hitting a 90 year maximum.
Like with virtually every president before him, the stock market hit new highs. But then much of gains were given back.
The world is less stable than how he found it and our position in it less secure.
The internal stability of the nation is at either a 50- or 150- year low (it’s too early to tell which).
He’s not even tried to manage the pandemic, rather he manages news cycles within it. And he only does that when a Fox personality guilts him into it.
The country is in far worse shape than it was 4 years ago.
wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 02:00 last edited by Loki@jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:
You’re high.
Unemployment hit a local minimum before hitting a 90 year maximum.
Like with virtually every president before him, the stock market hit new highs. But then much of gains were given back.
The world is less stable than how he found it and our position in it less secure.
The internal stability of the nation is at either a 50- or 150- year low (it’s too early to tell which).
He’s not even tried to manage the pandemic, rather he manages news cycles within it. And he only does that when a Fox personality guilts him into it.
The country is in far worse shape than it was 4 years ago.
If you think we had Iran, Russia, China and North Korea were contained you are drinking your bath water. And Europe’s problems could not be helped by the US so I don’t know who’s standing we have lost ground in. Prove your case.
