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  • CopperC Offline
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    Which is better for Mr. Biden?

    The possibility that he is impaired?

    Or the certainty that he is impaired?

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      Good chance you’re all being punked by the Biden campaign just trying to lower expectations. Meanwhile he’s experimenting with different doses of adderall and equivalents to see what will make him sharp as hell for three hours when it most counts.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • George KG George K

        The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html

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        @George-K said in Scrap the debates:

        The more cynical might consider this totally not unexpected.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html

        Heh...

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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          @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

          This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

          He would tell one grandious lie after another forcing his opponent to either ignore the lie or spend the whole debate debunking the lies. That man sucks the oxygen out of room when he opens his mouth.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

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            jon-nyc
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            @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

            This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

            Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Surprised Bill Kristol would trash precedent and tradition. Seems short sighted.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

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                @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                This is a fun topic because stealthily it lets you know whether any given Biden supporter or Trump hater is secretly afraid of what Trump would do to Biden in those debates.

                Meh. If anything people might be worried about what Biden could do to himself.

                Thank you for rephrasing that in a way that doesn't indicate that Trump is competent at anything. It's important to make sure we cleanse all conversation of such ideas.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Trump can hold his own with Biden when it comes to producing unintelligible word salad. He’s probably better at it in fact.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.

                    Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Trump can hold his own with Biden when it comes to producing unintelligible word salad. He’s probably better at it in fact.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                      Trump can hold his own with Biden when it comes to producing unintelligible word salad. He’s probably better at it in fact.

                      Minus the brown outs. Biden’s first blackout is going to be very scary. He’s getting closer to Stockdale by the day.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.

                        Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                        Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.

                        Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.

                        As I’ve said before, Trump doesn’t get penalized for his word salad like Biden does. He’s graded on a curve. None of his supporters need him to make sense.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Horace said in Scrap the debates:

                          Nothing to worry about in the debates then. It's a zero sum game after all. We're looking for relative suitability, not absolute.

                          Personally, I suspect Trump would come out better in the debates. And of course, you suspect that as well.

                          As I’ve said before, Trump doesn’t get penalized for his word salad like Biden does. He’s graded on a curve. None of his supporters need him to make sense.

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                          Random insults aimed at unnamed citizens, classic TDS

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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            jon is wary of unfair reactions in favor of Trump, lol.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              I’m not worried actually. I think the GOP has overplayed this and have set very low expectations for the debate.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Trump is a lot like AOC. They don’t need to make sense, they just need to emote in the resonant frequency of their respective tribes.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  It's easy to compare Trump to a clown, but how about comparing him to Biden? Do you expect more than tribal noises coming from Biden?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Trump is a lot like AOC. They don’t need to make sense, they just need to emote in the resonant frequency of their respective tribes.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Scrap the debates:

                                    Trump is a lot like AOC. They don’t need to make sense, they just need to emote in the resonant frequency of their respective tribes.

                                    But unlike AOC, coronavirus aside, he produced results that defied expectations and actually were amazing. So tough to swallow I admit.

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                                      Considering the certainty that Biden will make exactly the noises his tribe coaches him to make, it is difficult to see him as anything but a properly pedigreed tribal noise maker. Which I can totally understand is preferable to Trump, to many.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @Loki

                                        You’re high.

                                        Unemployment hit a local minimum before hitting a 90 year maximum.

                                        Like with virtually every president before him, the stock market hit new highs. But then much of gains were given back.

                                        The world is less stable than how he found it and our position in it less secure.

                                        The internal stability of the nation is at either a 50- or 150- year low (it’s too early to tell which).

                                        He’s not even tried to manage the pandemic, rather he manages news cycles within it. And he only does that when a Fox personality guilts him into it.

                                        The country is in far worse shape than it was 4 years ago.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          As of January 2020, per the state of the union address, the USA was in its best shape EVAH. The pandemic is likely a finite issue, and I think people know that. BLM and associated protests are becoming blah, as expected.

                                          Can people blame Trump for his handling of the pandemic? Sure. I blame him, to an extent.

                                          But I think Trump will have enough stats to throw out to generally deflect the predictable jabs Biden will make. He will have more energy and better jabs than Biden will and Biden risks having forgetful or mumbling moments, plus his teeth might even fall out.

                                          These debates are Trump’s to lose.

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