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It gets personal

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  • MikM Mik

    There’s no way to cut painlessly, I agree. I also believe there are taxpayer supported studies that are not worth the expense. But many if not most are. To cut them off in mid study while still proposing deficit spending seems less than due diligence.

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    @Mik said in It gets personal:

    There’s no way to cut painlessly, I agree. I also believe there are taxpayer supported studies that are not worth the expense. But many if not most are. To cut them off in mid study while still proposing deficit spending seems less than due diligence.

    Yeah agreed. Lazy is a good term for it, chasing headlines is another. As you said, whether it's research grants, or federal employees, or other programs, there is good work out there, perhaps most of the time, and our country is better than the "meh, there will be blood" wrecking ball approach when a smart scalpel could be used to avoid hurting the good work that's out there.

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      Smart scalpel is preferred, but the political will won't be there when you need it.

      It's going to be the roast chicken method, if it's done

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Smart scalpel is preferred, but the political will won't be there when you need it.

        It's going to be the roast chicken method, if it's done

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        @Jolly said in It gets personal:

        Smart scalpel is preferred, but the political will won't be there when you need it.

        How so? Don't you think an approach where Trump said something like "I'm going to deploy 10 genius analysts into each <whatever> branch and ask them to provide a full report in 6 months of what should be cut immediately and what should be sent back to congress to review appropriations". It doesn't have to take 4 years, but it also doesn't have to take 4 weeks. The latter is reckless and lazy.

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          A very smart man once said, If t'were done, it is well it t'were done quickly.

          In politics, when you've got Big MO, you gitter done. The longer something rattles around in the box, the more opposition you'll tend to have.

          In the case of cuts, corporate or government, you cut fast and hard. Sometimes, you have to adjust the cuts later, but that's usually easier than the paralysis of analysis.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Reminds me of a contest at college where they wanted to rename the "Great Hall" into something more interesting. Someone submitted "Nixon's Tomb" - which I thought was wonderful. I was actually on the committee that would decide the name - and spoke forcefully in favor of the name change - but by the time I got done speaking, even I was convinced it wasn't such a great idea since Nixon seemed to take things personal and while it would have made the national news - not the news that would result in good tidings.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              A very smart man once said, If t'were done, it is well it t'were done quickly.

              In politics, when you've got Big MO, you gitter done. The longer something rattles around in the box, the more opposition you'll tend to have.

              In the case of cuts, corporate or government, you cut fast and hard. Sometimes, you have to adjust the cuts later, but that's usually easier than the paralysis of analysis.

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              @Jolly said in It gets personal:

              A very smart man once said, If t'were done, it is well it t'were done quickly.

              In politics, when you've got Big MO, you gitter done. The longer something rattles around in the box, the more opposition you'll tend to have.

              In the case of cuts, corporate or government, you cut fast and hard. Sometimes, you have to adjust the cuts later, but that's usually easier than the paralysis of analysis.

              Ah, but Macbeth was speaking of murder, not cost cutting. 😄

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                A very smart man once said, If t'were done, it is well it t'were done quickly.

                In politics, when you've got Big MO, you gitter done. The longer something rattles around in the box, the more opposition you'll tend to have.

                In the case of cuts, corporate or government, you cut fast and hard. Sometimes, you have to adjust the cuts later, but that's usually easier than the paralysis of analysis.

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                @Jolly said in It gets personal:

                A very smart man once said, If t'were done, it is well it t'were done quickly.

                In politics, when you've got Big MO, you gitter done. The longer something rattles around in the box, the more opposition you'll tend to have.

                In the case of cuts, corporate or government, you cut fast and hard. Sometimes, you have to adjust the cuts later, but that's usually easier than the paralysis of analysis.

                Great. What have they actually cut?

                The Brad

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                  All told, more than 30,000 federal employees were fired in recent weeks after the Trump administration directed a mass purge of probationary staff.

                  https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/03/trump-administration-taking-steps-comply-court-orders-reinstate-tens-thousands-fired-workers/403795/

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @Jolly said in It gets personal:

                    A very smart man once said, If t'were done, it is well it t'were done quickly.

                    In politics, when you've got Big MO, you gitter done. The longer something rattles around in the box, the more opposition you'll tend to have.

                    In the case of cuts, corporate or government, you cut fast and hard. Sometimes, you have to adjust the cuts later, but that's usually easier than the paralysis of analysis.

                    Ah, but Macbeth was speaking of murder, not cost cutting. 😄

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                    @Mik said in It gets personal:

                    @Jolly said in It gets personal:

                    A very smart man once said, If t'were done, it is well it t'were done quickly.

                    In politics, when you've got Big MO, you gitter done. The longer something rattles around in the box, the more opposition you'll tend to have.

                    In the case of cuts, corporate or government, you cut fast and hard. Sometimes, you have to adjust the cuts later, but that's usually easier than the paralysis of analysis.

                    Ah, but Macbeth was speaking of murder, not cost cutting. 😄

                    Well, it is job death for some ...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      A big diabetes study canceled.

                      IMG_3689.jpeg

                      Like ours, Columbia was the lead but it funds many centers, in this case over 2 dozen.

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                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        A big diabetes study canceled.

                        IMG_3689.jpeg

                        Like ours, Columbia was the lead but it funds many centers, in this case over 2 dozen.

                        IMG_3690.jpeg

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                        @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                        A big diabetes study canceled.

                        And yet we can still afford a new study regarding the link between fucking autism and vaccines.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                          A big diabetes study canceled.

                          And yet we can still afford a new study regarding the link between fucking autism and vaccines.

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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in It gets personal:

                          @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                          A big diabetes study canceled.

                          And yet we can still afford a new study regarding the link between fucking autism and vaccines.

                          POTD

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in It gets personal:

                            @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                            A big diabetes study canceled.

                            And yet we can still afford a new study regarding the link between fucking autism and vaccines.

                            POTD

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                            @Renauda said in It gets personal:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in It gets personal:

                            @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                            A big diabetes study canceled.

                            And yet we can still afford a new study regarding the link between fucking autism and vaccines.

                            POTD

                            What is the point of this? Can anybody think of a rationale? Other than buying off RFK, obviously.

                            I was only joking

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              All told, more than 30,000 federal employees were fired in recent weeks after the Trump administration directed a mass purge of probationary staff.

                              https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/03/trump-administration-taking-steps-comply-court-orders-reinstate-tens-thousands-fired-workers/403795/

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                              @Copper said in It gets personal:

                              All told, more than 30,000 federal employees were fired in recent weeks after the Trump administration directed a mass purge of probationary staff.

                              https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/03/trump-administration-taking-steps-comply-court-orders-reinstate-tens-thousands-fired-workers/403795/

                              Keep up! They have been rehired since what Trump did was not legal. Now they're getting paid to play golf! (or whatever they do on paid leave)

                              25,000 employees... costing us $8 million per day. So much winning!

                              https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/37080/judge-reverses-mass-firings-of-federal-workers/11

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