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    xenon
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    This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

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      @jon-nyc

      Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

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      @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      @jon-nyc

      Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

      No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        A Honda Civic just went from $24,250 base to $29K…

        The Brad

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          Yeah but Canada’s paying the difference, eh?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            @jon-nyc

            Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

            No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

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            Renauda
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            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            @jon-nyc

            Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

            No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

            Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

            Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

            Elbows up!

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            • X xenon

              This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

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              @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

              Sniffs as sensible. Written by a man not invested in proving himself as if he's a child in a schoolyard forging an identity standing up to a bully.

              Anyway, posturing about standing up to bullies is very cheap. We'll see how this goes.

              Or, maybe a trade war ends well for Canada in the long run. I guess that's the notion? Or are we really at a "death before dishonor" crossroads?

              Education is extremely important.

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                Now, what is actually going to happen?

                Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Now, what is actually going to happen?

                  Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                  @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Now, what is actually going to happen?

                  Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                  What about the part where no business leader would plan for an integrated supply chain anymore?

                  And what’s actually happening at the Canadian border that’s causing such a mess in the US? That’s still not very clear to people. Hard to address a problem without knowing what it is.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Now, what is actually going to happen?

                    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                    @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    Now, what is actually going to happen?

                    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away.

                    That is my hope.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Now, what is actually going to happen?

                      Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                      @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      Now, what is actually going to happen?

                      Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                      Tightens up the border? For what? How many migrants are busted from Canada? How much Fentanyl has been shipped into the US from Canada? The only complaint that I’ve seen about the Canadian border is that it’s too difficult to get in…

                      The Brad

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                        #79

                        If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But many of his comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

                        That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

                        I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          This seems accurate.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            From 2023...

                            https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fentanyl-canada-export-1.7030758

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Now, what is actually going to happen?

                              Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                              @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              …..it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                              Excuse me, it’s not if you [the US] chooses to drop a military strike team into Canada.

                              Let me remind you that we have exclusive agency on our sovereign territory. If the US wants a criminal or terrorist target on our territory taken out, US law enforcement will work in cooperation with the responsible Canadian law enforcement agency to devise and execute a joint mission under Canadian command and control. If any military force needs to be engaged to meet the mission objective it will be in a Canadian uniform.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                From 2023...

                                https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fentanyl-canada-export-1.7030758

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                                #83

                                @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                From 2023...

                                https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fentanyl-canada-export-1.7030758

                                At least it’s not from Rebel News.

                                555

                                Anyway the article proves nothing to justify Trump’s sanctions and don’t think for a moment that the RCMP have not been working with US law enforcement agencies to deal with this issue long before this article was published.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                                  No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                                  Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                                  Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                                  MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
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                                  #84

                                  @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                                  No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                                  Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                                  Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                                  It's Shopify, not Spotify.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                                    No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                                    Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                                    Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                                    It's Shopify, not Spotify.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #85

                                    @Mik

                                    Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @Mik

                                      Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

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                                      Renauda
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                                      #86

                                      @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      @Mik

                                      Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                                      His business here will pay dearly for that tweet.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @Mik

                                        Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                                        His business here will pay dearly for that tweet.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        @Mik

                                        Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                                        His business here will pay dearly for that tweet.

                                        Currently in Wikipedia....

                                        "Tobias Lütke (born 1980[1][2]) is a traitor, and German/Canadian entrepreneur and racing driver who is the co-founder and CEO of Shopify, an e-commerce company based in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.[4][5][6][7] He has been part of the core team of the Ruby on Rails framework and has created open source libraries such as Active Merchant.[8] As of 2022, he was the 11th richest Canadian.[9] As of November 2024, his net worth was US$9.9 billion.[10] He currently competes in the 2025 IMSA SportsCar Championship driving in LMP2 for Era Motorsport.[11]"

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But many of his comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

                                          That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

                                          I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But all his own comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

                                          That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

                                          I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

                                          Trump has been all over the board on this since he started on us in November. Without going into detail we have bent backwards to the tune of $1. 8 billion in increased border security to appease his concerns. Same with Defence spending commitments. All of which have been and continue to be coordinated with not only the responsible US agencies but directly with his appointees to cabinet. Then Trump moves the goal posts to the trade deficit. Now yesterday it’s back again to border security.

                                          We have no issue with his security fears and concerns. Nor do we have issue with trade and investment irritants and issues.
                                          All require diplomacy, dialogue and cooperation and those are the paths we have consistently pursued to address the problems. He has unilaterally rejected all paths to resolution and chose instead to levy unjustified punitive sanctions on not only our economy but our national sovereignty.

                                          There is no transparency whatsoever in Trump’s demands or policy

                                          For all I know Trump is punishing Canada at Putin’s request or order, for its unwavering support of Ukraine.

                                          Spoke to my long time Finnish friend (Best Man at my wedding and oil executive) in Helsinki this morning. He is convinced Putin has kompromat on Trump and uses it at will. Who knows?

                                          Elbows up!

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