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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

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    @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

    Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

    Fair, if true.

    Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans pounce seize.

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

      Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

      Fair, if true.

      Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans pounce seize.

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      @George-K said in Another shooting at Trump:

      @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

      Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

      Fair, if true.

      Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans pounce seize.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.

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            @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

            According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.

            I've seen that as well. So how did the assassin-wannabe know where and when to be there. One report said he arrived 12 hours before the event. Did he just show up and hope that Trump would go for a round of golf?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.

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              @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

              So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.

              NEW: The USSS Director says during a press conference the man with the gun did not have a line of sight to Trump and fired no shots. The investigation is ongoing, but so far there are only gun charges.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                Oswald didn't have a line of sight, until the car moved into his line of sight.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  If he was there for 12 hours, one might assume that lots of golfers passed by. He was probably waiting for a particular golfer.

                  But lacking more information, we should not jump to any conclusions about who he may have been waiting for. It's too early to tell. Let's allow the investigation play out.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    My post wasn’t about motives. It’s about charges. Hence the reply to my previous.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      I'm happy for the secret service that they were able to do their job this time. I will be curious to see what the letter of the law allows for charges for this would-be assassination, but for preventative measures.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Usually people who do this don’t expect to survive so they leave behind messages that fully establish intent.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Though his schedule wasn’t public, it’s probably pretty easy to tell he or a family member is there based on local activity, eg the quantity of black SUV’s with government plates. I wonder if he had been in the area a while or just came in recently. If the former he could have figured out there was a high probability Trump was there even though the schedule wasn’t public.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Elon Musk chimes in:

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                            (He did delete it, but as smart people here have said, "The internet is forever")

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                              Who knew Elon Musk was a fan of Equity!

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Republicans are outraged....

                                GOP seethes...

                                Politico, shouldn't everyone be outraged?

                                Apparently The Hill can't spell "Pounced" "Seized."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Seems transparently false. If anything there’s elation about a failed (non)attempt and the expected bump in polls. It’s a news cycle victory extraordinaire.

                                  None will say that, but watch how they behave.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Seems transparently false. If anything there’s elation about a failed (non)attempt and the expected bump in polls. It’s a news cycle victory extraordinaire.

                                    None will say that, but watch how they behave.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

                                    If anything there’s elation about a failed (non)attempt and the expected bump in polls.

                                    Where?

                                    Show me the JOI.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Personal comment...

                                      Of all rifles to attempt a 300-500 yard shot, I would not pick an AK. They have pinned barrels and accuracy of about 3 MOA in 7.62x39 (most common caliber). That means about 9 inches at 300 yards and 15 inches at 500 yards, even with a good scope.

                                      Also the 122 - 124g bullet (typical bullet weight) drops a good bit.

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                                      @Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:

                                      Personal comment...

                                      Of all rifles to attempt a 300-500 yard shot, I would not pick an AK. They have pinned barrels and accuracy of about 3 MOA in 7.62x39 (most common caliber). That means about 9 inches at 300 yards and 15 inches at 500 yards, even with a good scope.

                                      I went shooting with my BIL one winter in a large field. We shot using a 307 (Remington?) rifle, prone position, and a very well dialed in scope. Was fun to hit our targets, but I certainly learned how hard it was.

                                      You’ll appreciate this, I was shooting that day with a bunch of Wisconsin farmboys (ok, in their 30s, half trained for the local SWAT team) and they were convinced I was undercover secret service since I “lived near DC”.

                                      I did see one guy hit a target from 700 yards though, that was particularly cool. Even though it took quite a few tries.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Seems transparently false. If anything there’s elation about a failed (non)attempt and the expected bump in polls. It’s a news cycle victory extraordinaire.

                                        None will say that, but watch how they behave.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

                                        Seems transparently false. If anything there’s elation about a failed (non)attempt and the expected bump in polls. It’s a news cycle victory extraordinaire.

                                        None will say that, but watch how they behave.

                                        Sure, this is a thing that happens. Just like the Democrats were elated at Jan 6. None will say it, but watch how they act.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Probably a Remington 700 chambered in .308 Win. That's mostly a very accurate combo.

                                          I used to shoot with a former Marine sniper (19 confirmed kills in the Nam) that loved that combo. At 200 yards, he could call his shots on a medium size cereal box...Right bottom corner, dead center, etc.

                                          If you can get some bowling pins, try those at 300. Ain't easy.

                                          700 is waaay outta my league

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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