Another shooting at Trump
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 13:00 last edited by
I don't think his goal was a 300 yard shot. That's just the distance he was from Trump at the time he was foiled by our ever-prepared Secret Service.
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I think it’s obvious the guy is simply anti-establishment. He supported Trump in 16 because he was attacking the established party control on both sides. When Trump turned out to be just a different type of Swamp monster, he just moved on and on…
wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 13:06 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Another shooting at Trump:
I think it’s obvious the guy is simply anti-establishment. He supported Trump in 16 because he was attacking the established party control on both sides. When Trump turned out to be just a different type of Swamp monster, he just moved on and on…
I am sure he was chaotically anti-establishment at times, but the most obvious thing about him is that he was all-in on existential threat narratives. Because he said so, and because that one overriding concern had him rooting strongly for the establishment.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 13:09 last edited by
My guess is that this'll be another situation where, if the assassin had been moderately well trained, we'd have had a dead Trump. Just like last time. Getting caught because you poked the barrel out of the fence? Maybe don't do that next time.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 13:24 last edited by George K
Go after the family...
This guys (now deleted) X profile tells us to "Bring the JOY!"
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Personal comment...
Of all rifles to attempt a 300-500 yard shot, I would not pick an AK. They have pinned barrels and accuracy of about 3 MOA in 7.62x39 (most common caliber). That means about 9 inches at 300 yards and 15 inches at 500 yards, even with a good scope.
Also the 122 - 124g bullet (typical bullet weight) drops a good bit.
wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 13:28 last edited by@Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:
, I would not pick an AK
Lot of chatter on X about exactly what kind of rifle it is.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 15:11 last edited by Jolly
Mini-30? A Mini-30 uses a modified Garand action.
Dumb ass. Look at the exposed gas tube on top of the barrel. That screams Kalishnikov action.
Now, is it some kind of variant? Who knows?
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@Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:
Trump was on the fifth hole, on or around the green. Reports vary, but the would be assassin was somewhere around 300 yards away (some say as much as 500).
@Copper it's much easier to picture these shooting distances now that we're talking about golf yardage!
wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 15:31 last edited by@89th said in Another shooting at Trump:
@Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:
Trump was on the fifth hole, on or around the green. Reports vary, but the would be assassin was somewhere around 300 yards away (some say as much as 500).
@Copper it's much easier to picture these shooting distances now that we're talking about golf yardage!
500 yards, so that would be about a 3 iron for Mr. Trump.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 17:32 last edited by
The Hodgkinson effect is in full force.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 17:34 last edited by jon-nyc
Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 17:37 last edited by
So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 17:47 last edited by
Why all the attention on which exact rifle? The dude had a broomstick and was going to try to ventilate Trump…
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Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.
wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 18:15 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:
Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.
Fair, if true.
Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans
pounceseize.
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@jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:
Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.
Fair, if true.
Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans
pounceseize.wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 18:37 last edited by LuFins Dad@George-K said in Another shooting at Trump:
@jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:
Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.
Fair, if true.
Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 18:39 last edited by
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 21:13 last edited by
According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.
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According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.
wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 21:29 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:
According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.
I've seen that as well. So how did the assassin-wannabe know where and when to be there. One report said he arrived 12 hours before the event. Did he just show up and hope that Trump would go for a round of golf?
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So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.
wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 21:46 last edited by jon-nyc@jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:
So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.
NEW: The USSS Director says during a press conference the man with the gun did not have a line of sight to Trump and fired no shots. The investigation is ongoing, but so far there are only gun charges.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 22:08 last edited by
Oswald didn't have a line of sight, until the car moved into his line of sight.
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wrote on 16 Sept 2024, 22:11 last edited by
If he was there for 12 hours, one might assume that lots of golfers passed by. He was probably waiting for a particular golfer.
But lacking more information, we should not jump to any conclusions about who he may have been waiting for. It's too early to tell. Let's allow the investigation play out.
