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Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Well, maybe some people changed their minds...

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    #132

    @Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

    Well, maybe some people changed their minds...

    I saw the video, it was actually pretty nice. Biden (wow, he looks even older now) was having a fun convo with a guy in a Trump hat. He asked if he should sign a Presidential hat and the civilian says "hell no, you can't even remember your name" or something like that, which Biden jokes "yeah I'm pretty slow" but then they swap hats. Anyway... he's embracing the IDGAF mentality now.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Mik said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

      Define winning.

      I'm pretty sure I won the debate. I watched Kaos on Netflix.

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      #133

      @Doctor-Phibes I'm down wit' that.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Rove in the WSJ: “There’s no putting lipstick on this pig.”

        IMG_0053.jpeg

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        #134

        @jon-nyc said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

        Rove in the WSJ: “There’s no putting lipstick on this pig.”

        IMG_0053.jpeg

        Go hang your hat on Rove. He's as relevant as Carville.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • 89th8 89th

          @jon-nyc said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

          @Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

          You don't know. You have no credible source or news story.

          You’ve got a fourth-person account from a random Facebook post, a series of memes resulting from it, and a presidential candidate that has become a laughingstock by repeating it in such a meme-able way.

          Good summary

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          #135

          @89th said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

          @jon-nyc said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

          @Jolly said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

          You don't know. You have no credible source or news story.

          You’ve got a fourth-person account from a random Facebook post, a series of memes resulting from it, and a presidential candidate that has become a laughingstock by repeating it in such a meme-able way.

          Good summary

          Perception is reality.

          People in the city we're talking about believe that story. There's enough smoke, that a lot of people in similarly affected places believe that story.

          It matters not one red rolling rat's ass if Jon's neighbors believe that story or not.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • MikM Offline
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            #136

            My cousin nails it.

            https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4873167-debate-night-just-another-night-of-kamala-harris-dodging-all-substantive-questions/

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              #137

              I think the one aspect on which the two candidates converged is that questions should be thought of as topic suggestions for your next round of talking points.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                You don't become a viable national politician by answering questions directly or honestly. The talent is in seeming to have answered while not actually answering. Neither of those two made a good show of seeming to answer.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  You don't become a viable national politician by answering questions directly or honestly. The talent is in seeming to have answered while not actually answering. Neither of those two made a good show of seeming to answer.

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                  #139

                  @Horace

                  You don't become a viable national politician by answering questions directly or honestly. The talent is in seeming to have answered while not actually answering. Neither of those two made a good show of seeming to answer.

                  Nailed it.

                  I believe that is an indispensable, albeit despicable, talent or trait for successful politicians at all levels of government regardless of nationality, culture or race.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @Horace

                    You don't become a viable national politician by answering questions directly or honestly. The talent is in seeming to have answered while not actually answering. Neither of those two made a good show of seeming to answer.

                    Nailed it.

                    I believe that is an indispensable, albeit despicable, talent or trait for successful politicians at all levels of government regardless of nationality, culture or race.

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                    taiwan_girl
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                    @Renauda said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                    Nailed it.

                    +1

                    Read the transcript of the debate. It was a spaghetti of talk - almost never answering the question asked.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #141

                      BTW, anybody mention ABC's female moderator was Kamala's sorority sister?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #142

                        In the sense that they were in different chapters in different universities in different states more than a decade apart?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Jolly
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                          Still an unreported conflict of interest.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            Yeah, I rolled my eyes at that one. I don’t see that as being any kind of conflict of interest. I bet there have been a lot more egregious examples in the past.

                            The Brad

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                              #145

                              That being a conflict of interest is like me saying as a Manchester physics alumnus I was involved in splitting the atom.

                              Which of course I was.

                              I was only joking

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                                Former Clinton advisor Mark Penn thinks the debate was rigged and calls for an investigation.

                                "I actually think they should do a full internal investigation, hire an outside law firm. I don't know how much of this was planned in advance," Penn told the "John Solomon Reports" podcast.

                                "I don't know what they told the Harris campaign. I think the day after, suspicion here is really quite high, and I think a review of all their internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, you know, fact-checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of this debate. I think the situation demands nothing less than that," he added.

                                Penn, chairman of the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll, also said Harris has done a "good job" defining Trump as the incumbent and herself as the change candidate even though she's the sitting vice president. But he described the mainstream media's coverage of Harris' campaign as laughable.

                                "It's a 50-50, race. He's [Trump] got more obvious tools to get across the finish line than she does and part of the thing here is that if the referees have their finger on the scale, it's harder to, you know, break through and overcome. And certainly, general media coverage has been fairly laughable," he said.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  One of the reasons for joining a sorority is making connections that will serve you later in life.

                                  This is the classic example of a conflict of interest.

                                  So what? The ABC guys will be happy to attack Mr. Trump with or without any sorority.

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                                    Also need to check if the moderators and debaters ever belonged to the same frequent travelers or credit rewards or store loyalty programs for conflict of interests.

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                                      Hmm, weren't President Trump and the other moderator both Caucasian males with European ancestors? 6 degree of separation and all that.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #150

                                        Needs context? What context?
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                                        The Brad

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          Hmm, weren't President Trump and the other moderator both Caucasian males with European ancestors? 6 degree of separation and all that.

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Debate Tonight 9/10/24 9:00 PM EDT:

                                          Hmm, weren't President Trump and the other moderator both Caucasian males with European ancestors? 6 degree of separation and all that.

                                          David Muir also clearly spends an inordinate amount of time arranging his hair and makeup.

                                          The two females involved in the debate probably less so.

                                          I was only joking

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