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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by Jolly
    #44

    Kamala-lama-ding-dong has been holed up for a week, doing some serious debate prep. She knows the importance of this debate for her. If she performs poorly, wonder what the numbers shift will look like?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

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      • 89th8 89th

        Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #46

        @89th said in It’s starting:

        Yeah much more risk for her in this debate.

        Will she debate again? Wasn't the original agreement that there be three debates? Well, depending on how you look at it, there has been one, or zero debates so far.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #47

          @89th said in It’s starting:

          Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

          I really think you are misreading the mood and momentum. Kamala had a ton of momentum going into the convention, but that has all stalled out. It started with the interview on CNN, and it’s gotten worse throughout the continued lack of policy positions, flips, Bernie saying the quiet part out loud, and the underlying suspicion of Walz. The polls have reversed course, with the last NYT/Sienna poll having Trump up +1 nationally, and the battleground states are worse.

          What I’m seeing from Western PA, Michigan, and Blue Collar white areas is not joy, but anger, and it’s getting worse. In North Carolina and Georgia, Kamala is ringing false with the black community, and as a whole, they are a divided voting block. Dems can’t afford that. They need 90% of the black vote. The only real progress she’s had has been in the sun belt.

          Oh, and this Haitian eating cats thing? It has legs, especially when paired with her proud speech about relocating several hundred thousand Haitians.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @89th said in It’s starting:

            Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

            I really think you are misreading the mood and momentum. Kamala had a ton of momentum going into the convention, but that has all stalled out. It started with the interview on CNN, and it’s gotten worse throughout the continued lack of policy positions, flips, Bernie saying the quiet part out loud, and the underlying suspicion of Walz. The polls have reversed course, with the last NYT/Sienna poll having Trump up +1 nationally, and the battleground states are worse.

            What I’m seeing from Western PA, Michigan, and Blue Collar white areas is not joy, but anger, and it’s getting worse. In North Carolina and Georgia, Kamala is ringing false with the black community, and as a whole, they are a divided voting block. Dems can’t afford that. They need 90% of the black vote. The only real progress she’s had has been in the sun belt.

            Oh, and this Haitian eating cats thing? It has legs, especially when paired with her proud speech about relocating several hundred thousand Haitians.

            George KG Offline
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            @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

            Kamala is ringing false with the black community

            I think it was in Georgia where Trump won 9% of the black vote in 2020.

            He's polling at 17% this week in that demographic.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #49

              Silver’s latest model has Trump at 63.8%. Here’s his electoral map:

              alt text

              The Brad

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                #50

                Wow, yeah I'm probably wrong. Unfortunately if it's close, it'll feed the conspiracy/election deniers.... would rather have a landslide (even more than Biden's landslide) victory for one side or another.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                  #51

                  Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                  alt text

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                    alt text

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    #52

                    @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                    Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                    alt text

                    Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                    Also, I note that Silver himself calls this model a "prediction" of the election results.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                      Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                      alt text

                      Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                      Also, I note that Silver himself calls this model a "prediction" of the election results.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #53

                      @Horace said in It’s starting:

                      Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                      She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                      Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Horace said in It’s starting:

                        Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                        She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                        Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #54

                        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                        I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                        Look at their publicity graphic.

                        IMG_0011.jpeg

                        Just kidding that’s from the Harris campaign.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Horace said in It’s starting:

                          Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                          She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                          Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                          @Horace said in It’s starting:

                          Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                          She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                          Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                          70% of the population distrust the media. Ostensibly, a heavy media bias towards Kamala would help Trump.

                          The Brad

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #56

                            They may distrust them, but older people vote and the MSM is still their main source of info.

                            Shucks, look how a geezer like Jon leans on the NYT! 😜

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #57

                              Betting markets flipped.

                              IMG_0045.png

                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2024/09/11/harris-surges-past-trump-in-election-betting-markets-after-presidential-debate/

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                I'm going to be a freaking gazillionaire when Michelle is elected.

                                I was only joking

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #59

                                  lol

                                  Odd that Vance isn’t listed. One of the UK markets puts him a distant third, ahead of Michelle and the other names you see here.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #60

                                    Kinda expected that.

                                    I think you see them tighten back up, if she continues to stay in her basement.

                                    BTW, notice the behavior of the two candidates? After the debate, Trump left for the spin room and talked awhile. Kamala-lama-ding-dong went directly to her limo and left.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #61

                                      The daily show link shows a montage of him claiming polls say he won 92-7 or something.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        If you listen to him, Trump has never lost anything in his entire life.

                                        Considering how awesome he is, it's a little hard to understand why he always looks so bloody miserable.

                                        He's fatter bigger than Jesus!

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Ayup. Good week for Kamala. Will be interesting to see how much it affects the polls next week.

                                          The Brad

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