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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

      George KG Offline
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      #38

      @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

      Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

      alt text

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

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        #39

        @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

        Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

        Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

            Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

            Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #41

            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

            @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

            Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

            Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

            Beyond that, the guy sued a widow to get her to move out of her home so he could build a casino. He was one of the filthiest and most obnoxious guests on Howard Stern. He is the very epitome of sleaze.

            And yet the Democrats keep putting up candidates that are even worse. It really is astounding.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

              @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

              Well, for one thing, Kap was hardly unknown. He was a starting QB in the Super Bowl. For another thing, a Donald Trump supporter should not be casting stones about a candidate’s sexual escapades.

              Imagine if it were Harris who had 5 kids from 3 different partners. Or twice as many divorces as the first 44 presidents combined.

              Beyond that, the guy sued a widow to get her to move out of her home so he could build a casino. He was one of the filthiest and most obnoxious guests on Howard Stern. He is the very epitome of sleaze.

              And yet the Democrats keep putting up candidates that are even worse. It really is astounding.

              Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #42

              @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

              He is the very epitome of sleaze.

              I've come to the conclusion that a fair number of his supporters actually like that about him, which is quite a sad reflection of where we are.

              I was only joking

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #43

                Deadlocked - https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/09/09/in-tied-presidential-race-harris-and-trump-have-contrasting-strengths-weaknesses/

                The Brad

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #44

                  Kamala-lama-ding-dong has been holed up for a week, doing some serious debate prep. She knows the importance of this debate for her. If she performs poorly, wonder what the numbers shift will look like?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

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                      George K
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                      #46

                      @89th said in It’s starting:

                      Yeah much more risk for her in this debate.

                      Will she debate again? Wasn't the original agreement that there be three debates? Well, depending on how you look at it, there has been one, or zero debates so far.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        @89th said in It’s starting:

                        Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

                        I really think you are misreading the mood and momentum. Kamala had a ton of momentum going into the convention, but that has all stalled out. It started with the interview on CNN, and it’s gotten worse throughout the continued lack of policy positions, flips, Bernie saying the quiet part out loud, and the underlying suspicion of Walz. The polls have reversed course, with the last NYT/Sienna poll having Trump up +1 nationally, and the battleground states are worse.

                        What I’m seeing from Western PA, Michigan, and Blue Collar white areas is not joy, but anger, and it’s getting worse. In North Carolina and Georgia, Kamala is ringing false with the black community, and as a whole, they are a divided voting block. Dems can’t afford that. They need 90% of the black vote. The only real progress she’s had has been in the sun belt.

                        Oh, and this Haitian eating cats thing? It has legs, especially when paired with her proud speech about relocating several hundred thousand Haitians.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @89th said in It’s starting:

                          Yeah much more risk for her in this debate. My predictions have been bad lately but overall there is a big shift (probably due to media coverage) of the awkward and cold approach of Trump/Vance and the authentic, warm, hopeful approach of Harris... like a mini Obama feeling from 2008 in terms of excitement and hope from her crowd. Hard to see her losing, which is something I really didn't think would happen a few months ago.

                          I really think you are misreading the mood and momentum. Kamala had a ton of momentum going into the convention, but that has all stalled out. It started with the interview on CNN, and it’s gotten worse throughout the continued lack of policy positions, flips, Bernie saying the quiet part out loud, and the underlying suspicion of Walz. The polls have reversed course, with the last NYT/Sienna poll having Trump up +1 nationally, and the battleground states are worse.

                          What I’m seeing from Western PA, Michigan, and Blue Collar white areas is not joy, but anger, and it’s getting worse. In North Carolina and Georgia, Kamala is ringing false with the black community, and as a whole, they are a divided voting block. Dems can’t afford that. They need 90% of the black vote. The only real progress she’s had has been in the sun belt.

                          Oh, and this Haitian eating cats thing? It has legs, especially when paired with her proud speech about relocating several hundred thousand Haitians.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                          Kamala is ringing false with the black community

                          I think it was in Georgia where Trump won 9% of the black vote in 2020.

                          He's polling at 17% this week in that demographic.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
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                            Silver’s latest model has Trump at 63.8%. Here’s his electoral map:

                            alt text

                            The Brad

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              Wow, yeah I'm probably wrong. Unfortunately if it's close, it'll feed the conspiracy/election deniers.... would rather have a landslide (even more than Biden's landslide) victory for one side or another.

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                                #51

                                Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                                alt text

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                                  alt text

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                                  #52

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                  Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                                  alt text

                                  Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                                  Also, I note that Silver himself calls this model a "prediction" of the election results.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                    Trump’s lead is as big as it’s been against Kamala. Tonight, he has the high bar of not being a complete dick. She has the much higher bar of showing she actually has policies and plans people would like.

                                    alt text

                                    Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                                    Also, I note that Silver himself calls this model a "prediction" of the election results.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    @Horace said in It’s starting:

                                    Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                                    She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                                    Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Horace said in It’s starting:

                                      Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                                      She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                                      Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

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                                      @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                      I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                                      Look at their publicity graphic.

                                      IMG_0011.jpeg

                                      Just kidding that’s from the Harris campaign.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @Horace said in It’s starting:

                                        Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                                        She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                                        Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                        @Horace said in It’s starting:

                                        Trump is inching closer to seeming human, at least based on the interview I saw recently with Fridman. But he will no doubt fail to pass simple tests of self-control in the debate, and Kamala will wink to the audience and project joy when he does. I have no doubt she has spent quality time with mirrors and body language consultants to perfect whatever it is she will be nonverbally communicating when Trump acts like Trump.

                                        She's been working with the same debate coach Hillary worked with. The guy dresses like Trump and tries to debate in his style. They've also brought some Hollywood people to do some consulting... She 's gonna bait him like a bear.

                                        Plus, the MSM spin for her will be terrific. Shucks, I think ABC has already declared her the winner...

                                        70% of the population distrust the media. Ostensibly, a heavy media bias towards Kamala would help Trump.

                                        The Brad

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                                          They may distrust them, but older people vote and the MSM is still their main source of info.

                                          Shucks, look how a geezer like Jon leans on the NYT! 😜

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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