Thomas Crooks - what we know

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

@jon-nyc If Trump is “literally Hitler”, don’t you have a moral obligation to stop him any way possible?

Baked into TDS is some sort of subliminal, unspoken agreement that it is not to be taken seriously. Another way in which TDS is essentially infantile. A tantrum which is to be endured with calm serenity by the adults in the room.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

@LuFins-Dad said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

@jon-nyc If Trump is “literally Hitler”, don’t you have a moral obligation to stop him any way possible?

One might believe that and feel that way. There’s no evidence crooks did.

You say that like it would actually be meaningful if he did feel that way. But all it would do is require you to spend a few more calories rhetorically dancing around it. It’s not as if it would make anybody take a long look in the mirror and reconsider the sorts of hysterical narratives they’ve been reinforcing since 2015.

We don’t actually have any idea how many people have felt that way but got thwarted by secret service in a quiet way nobody ever heard about. It seems unlikely that that number is zero, but so? Only one person here is clearly heavily invested in the absence or presence of the rhetorical opportunities presented by Thomas Crooks. Those of us who’ve always been skeptical of histrionic TDS rhetoric have never needed a Crooks or a Secret Service face plant to make our case.

[jon-nyc]

Thanks, Lucy. Where do I send my nickel?

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@jon-nyc said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

Thanks, Lucy. Where do I send my nickel?

I told you, send it to Trump 2024. That’s your penance for participating in the rhetoric that directly motivated Thomas Crooks to attempt to assassinate Donald Trump.

[jon-nyc]

Unlike JD Vance, I’ve never compared him to Hitler.

I mean, Hitler would have repealed Obamacare and passed an infrastructure bill.

[George K]

Is this the shooter?

[jon-nyc]

You tell us. Where’d you find that?

[jon-nyc]

Tineye reverse image search found zero matches.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

You tell us. Where’d you find that?

Some rando on twitter. Not anyone I follow.

Looks like Crooks, though.

Yesterday, Mrs. George said, "He's just a kid - look he's wearing braces." Probably a picture from high school, or earlier.

[89th]

Yeah the main photo of him I believe is from like 2021? The trans (mental illness) wouldn't be a stretch, as we've seen a few times before.

[89th]

@Mik said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

I think the truth is that a sad, lonely young man made a very bad decision.

Agreed. Not that anyone cares, but my gut was this was just a dude who decided to see what he could get away with and likely live famously in history books. I lived long enough in DC to know that there are a billion security gaps if you really wanted to try to get away with something... and much easier when it's in the middle of the Pennsylvania countryside.

[jon-nyc]

I e said this before but I’m surprised we don’t see more of it.

Also I’d be curious to know how many potential shooters are thwarted, and how close they are when that happens.

[Horace]

We have very little information to go on to gauge how often security measures prevent would be assassinations. The reason we know about this one, is the secret service face plant.

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

I think the truth is that a sad, lonely young man made a very bad decision.

Yup, I think this is it. I heard that when they searched his phone, there were searches for both President Biden and President Trump. My guess is that if President Biden would have had a rally in the area rather than President Trump, he would have been at it. Quite sad.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

Granted he lived with his parents but he’s the only republican in the house.

Andrew Torba, CEO of the social media site Gab

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"The assassin was your guy", say the people who hate the guy who the assassin targeted.

My own perspective remains that it doesn't matter what this young crazy guy had in his addled brain. We know about this for reasons other than what was going on in his brain. Most importantly, a ridiculous faceplant by the secret service.

[jon-nyc]

Seems to be the other way around. George’s post is from a guy who runs an alt-right twitter clone, who wants to assure us that the shooter was the lone libtard on Gab.

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@jon-nyc said in Thomas Crooks - what we know:

Seems to be the other way around. George’s post is from a guy who runs an alt-right twitter clone, who wants to assure us that the shooter was the lone libtard on Gab.

“The assassin was your guy” is implicit in the messaging that was sure to lede with “registered republican” as they described the shooter. GK’s post was I’m sure more nuanced.

[George K]

Torba never said he was the lone libtard.

Did you read the FBI's request?

[George K]

FBI, in Senate testimony...

He might have been the only libtard on Gab, but he was a libtard on Gab.