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    Horace
    wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 20:01 last edited by
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    omg and in that same file there's this:

    SXTANG1 VLOAD VXV
    ZNB1
    STAR
    BOV
    +1
    UNIT BOV
    ZNB=S1
    STORE PDA # PDA = UNIT(ZNB X S)

    	DOT	DCOMP
    		XNB1
    	STOVL	SINTH		# SIN(SA) = PDA . -XNB
    		PDA
    
    	DOT
    		YNB1
    	STCALL	COSTH		# COS(SA) = PDA . YNB
    		ARCTRIG
    

    omglol

    Education is extremely important.

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      Copper
      wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 20:42 last edited by
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      God I loved doing that, absolutely positively loved it.

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        89th
        wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 23:13 last edited by
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        I bet Apollo 13 was caused by some n00b forgetting a comma on line 257

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        • C Copper
          9 Jun 2020, 20:42

          God I loved doing that, absolutely positively loved it.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 12:10 last edited by
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          @Copper said in For the computing history nerds:

          God I loved doing that, absolutely positively loved it.

          There was a time when a single programmer could know and understand an entire state-of-the-art system, every nuance, every quirk, every last bit of details.

          These days, everyone just build on top of third party components and libraries, and few bother to try to understand the entirety of the components or libraries they use.

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          • H Horace
            9 Jun 2020, 19:58

            CALCSXA ITA VLOAD # PUSHDOWN 00-26D,28D,30D,32D-36D
            28D
            STAR
            CALL
            SMNB
            MXV VSL1
            NB2NB1
            STOVL STAR
            HIUNITX
            STOVL XNB1
            HIUNITY
            STOVL YNB1
            HIUNITZ
            STCALL ZNB1
            SXTANG1

            omglol what noob wrote that?

            omglol

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 12:13 last edited by
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            @Horace said in For the computing history nerds:

            CALCSXA ITA VLOAD # PUSHDOWN 00-26D,28D,30D,32D-36D

            omglol what noob wrote that?

            A noob who thought he could # and “pushdown” a virtual load on Italian women with D-cup sizes, that’s who.

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            • K Klaus
              9 Jun 2020, 14:24

              The original source code of the Apollo 11 guidance computer (or parts thereof) from 1969 are now available on Github.

              https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11

              Note that most of the code was written by a gal, Margaret Hamilton. Here she is, besides a printout of the source code she wrote. She is really one of the main pioneers of the field. I wish I met her or seen a talk of hers.

              alt text

              I also wish there would be a quick summary of the proprietary assembly language (AGC) she was using somewhere. I can't really decipher what is going on.

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              Improviso
              wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 22:19 last edited by
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              @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

              Note that most of the code was written by a gal, Margaret Hamilton

              The_Wicked_Witch_of_the_West-e1566241524442.jpg
              Broom Code FTW!!!

              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 01:24 last edited by
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                Murphy's Law, bring your kid to work day, and the Apollo Program, excerpted from an interview with Ms. Hamilton by The Guardian's Zoë Corbyn:

                Often in the evening or at weekends I would bring my young daughter, Lauren, into work with me. One day, she was with me when I was doing a simulation of a mission to the moon. She liked to imitate me – playing astronaut. She started hitting keys and all of a sudden, the simulation started. Then she pressed other keys and the simulation crashed. She had selected a program which was supposed to be run prior to launch – when she was already “on the way” to the moon. The computer had so little space, it had wiped the navigation data taking her to the moon. I thought: my God – this could inadvertently happen in a real mission. I suggested a program change to prevent a prelaunch program being selected during flight. But the higher-ups at MIT and Nasa said the astronauts were too well trained to make such a mistake. Midcourse on the very next mission – Apollo 8 – one of the astronauts on board accidentally did exactly what Lauren had done. The Lauren bug! It created much havoc and required the mission to be reconfigured. After that, they let me put the program change in, all right.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 01:49 last edited by
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                  Wow!

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 21:57 last edited by
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                    If you are a nerd and have a Unix-ish command line (Mac OS, Linux, ...), check this out:

                    This will compute the greatest common divisor of two numbers.

                    dc -e '??[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+p'
                    

                    Want the infinite stream of prime numbers?

                    echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc
                    

                    The dc program is one of the oldest tools in the Unix toolbox and the oldest "Unix language" that is still available today. It's a programmable calculator with a rather idiosyncratic but cool syntax.

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                    • K Klaus
                      24 Jul 2020, 21:57

                      If you are a nerd and have a Unix-ish command line (Mac OS, Linux, ...), check this out:

                      This will compute the greatest common divisor of two numbers.

                      dc -e '??[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+p'
                      

                      Want the infinite stream of prime numbers?

                      echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc
                      

                      The dc program is one of the oldest tools in the Unix toolbox and the oldest "Unix language" that is still available today. It's a programmable calculator with a rather idiosyncratic but cool syntax.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 22:11 last edited by
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                      @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

                      If you are a nerd and have a Unix-ish command line (Mac OS, Linux, ...), check this out:

                      This will compute the greatest common divisor of two numbers.

                      dc -e '??[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+p'
                      

                      Want the infinite stream of prime numbers?

                      echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc
                      

                      The dc program is one of the oldest tools in the Unix toolbox and the oldest "Unix language" that is still available today. It's a programmable calculator with a rather idiosyncratic but cool syntax.

                      To the extent that a syntax can be cool—which is to say not at all; that's like saying "this bitchin' thing we got goin' on in the hanging file folder R&D department"—that syntax is about as uncool as Billy Joel.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Klaus
                        wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 22:38 last edited by
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                        The fact that have no clue what's going on is no indication that the commands and the syntax of dc aren't cool 😉

                        This is an operational piece of history, which reflects both the engineering considerations and the programming knowledge of its time. You can admire it in the same way one admires, say, the engine of a 1937 Mercedes silver arrow.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 23:17 last edited by
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                          @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

                          echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc

                          infinite my ass.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            24 Jul 2020, 23:17

                            @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

                            echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc

                            infinite my ass.

                            Screen Shot 2020-07-24 at 7.16.35 PM.png

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 25 Jul 2020, 01:04 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in For the computing history nerds:

                            infinite my ass.

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                            @jon-nyc , time to upgrade, get more RAM.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 25 Jul 2020, 01:05 last edited by
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                              Oh sure, blame the victim.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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