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  • 89th8 Online
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    89th
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    #3

    If I open a PR will you merge it? 😂

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    • AxtremusA Away
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      Axtremus
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      #4

      Would be even more awesome if there are ...

      • a virtual machine to run the compiler/linker for yaYUL
      • a virtual machine to run the compiled/linked binary

      Wonder if they also published minutes from their "code review" meetings.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        Would be even more awesome if there are ...

        • a virtual machine to run the compiler/linker for yaYUL
        • a virtual machine to run the compiled/linked binary

        Wonder if they also published minutes from their "code review" meetings.

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        Klaus
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        #5

        @Axtremus I'm glad you ask. Actually, there is!

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          CALCSXA ITA VLOAD # PUSHDOWN 00-26D,28D,30D,32D-36D
          28D
          STAR
          CALL
          SMNB
          MXV VSL1
          NB2NB1
          STOVL STAR
          HIUNITX
          STOVL XNB1
          HIUNITY
          STOVL YNB1
          HIUNITZ
          STCALL ZNB1
          SXTANG1

          omglol what noob wrote that?

          omglol

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            omg and in that same file there's this:

            SXTANG1 VLOAD VXV
            ZNB1
            STAR
            BOV
            +1
            UNIT BOV
            ZNB=S1
            STORE PDA # PDA = UNIT(ZNB X S)

            	DOT	DCOMP
            		XNB1
            	STOVL	SINTH		# SIN(SA) = PDA . -XNB
            		PDA
            
            	DOT
            		YNB1
            	STCALL	COSTH		# COS(SA) = PDA . YNB
            		ARCTRIG
            

            omglol

            Education is extremely important.

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            • CopperC Offline
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              God I loved doing that, absolutely positively loved it.

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              • 89th8 Online
                89th8 Online
                89th
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                I bet Apollo 13 was caused by some n00b forgetting a comma on line 257

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                • CopperC Copper

                  God I loved doing that, absolutely positively loved it.

                  AxtremusA Away
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                  Axtremus
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                  @Copper said in For the computing history nerds:

                  God I loved doing that, absolutely positively loved it.

                  There was a time when a single programmer could know and understand an entire state-of-the-art system, every nuance, every quirk, every last bit of details.

                  These days, everyone just build on top of third party components and libraries, and few bother to try to understand the entirety of the components or libraries they use.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    CALCSXA ITA VLOAD # PUSHDOWN 00-26D,28D,30D,32D-36D
                    28D
                    STAR
                    CALL
                    SMNB
                    MXV VSL1
                    NB2NB1
                    STOVL STAR
                    HIUNITX
                    STOVL XNB1
                    HIUNITY
                    STOVL YNB1
                    HIUNITZ
                    STCALL ZNB1
                    SXTANG1

                    omglol what noob wrote that?

                    omglol

                    AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
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                    #11

                    @Horace said in For the computing history nerds:

                    CALCSXA ITA VLOAD # PUSHDOWN 00-26D,28D,30D,32D-36D

                    omglol what noob wrote that?

                    A noob who thought he could # and “pushdown” a virtual load on Italian women with D-cup sizes, that’s who.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      The original source code of the Apollo 11 guidance computer (or parts thereof) from 1969 are now available on Github.

                      https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11

                      Note that most of the code was written by a gal, Margaret Hamilton. Here she is, besides a printout of the source code she wrote. She is really one of the main pioneers of the field. I wish I met her or seen a talk of hers.

                      alt text

                      I also wish there would be a quick summary of the proprietary assembly language (AGC) she was using somewhere. I can't really decipher what is going on.

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                      @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

                      Note that most of the code was written by a gal, Margaret Hamilton

                      The_Wicked_Witch_of_the_West-e1566241524442.jpg
                      Broom Code FTW!!!

                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        Axtremus
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                        Murphy's Law, bring your kid to work day, and the Apollo Program, excerpted from an interview with Ms. Hamilton by The Guardian's Zoë Corbyn:

                        Often in the evening or at weekends I would bring my young daughter, Lauren, into work with me. One day, she was with me when I was doing a simulation of a mission to the moon. She liked to imitate me – playing astronaut. She started hitting keys and all of a sudden, the simulation started. Then she pressed other keys and the simulation crashed. She had selected a program which was supposed to be run prior to launch – when she was already “on the way” to the moon. The computer had so little space, it had wiped the navigation data taking her to the moon. I thought: my God – this could inadvertently happen in a real mission. I suggested a program change to prevent a prelaunch program being selected during flight. But the higher-ups at MIT and Nasa said the astronauts were too well trained to make such a mistake. Midcourse on the very next mission – Apollo 8 – one of the astronauts on board accidentally did exactly what Lauren had done. The Lauren bug! It created much havoc and required the mission to be reconfigured. After that, they let me put the program change in, all right.

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                        • 89th8 Online
                          89th8 Online
                          89th
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                          Wow!

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                            If you are a nerd and have a Unix-ish command line (Mac OS, Linux, ...), check this out:

                            This will compute the greatest common divisor of two numbers.

                            dc -e '??[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+p'
                            

                            Want the infinite stream of prime numbers?

                            echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc
                            

                            The dc program is one of the oldest tools in the Unix toolbox and the oldest "Unix language" that is still available today. It's a programmable calculator with a rather idiosyncratic but cool syntax.

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              If you are a nerd and have a Unix-ish command line (Mac OS, Linux, ...), check this out:

                              This will compute the greatest common divisor of two numbers.

                              dc -e '??[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+p'
                              

                              Want the infinite stream of prime numbers?

                              echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc
                              

                              The dc program is one of the oldest tools in the Unix toolbox and the oldest "Unix language" that is still available today. It's a programmable calculator with a rather idiosyncratic but cool syntax.

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                              @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

                              If you are a nerd and have a Unix-ish command line (Mac OS, Linux, ...), check this out:

                              This will compute the greatest common divisor of two numbers.

                              dc -e '??[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+p'
                              

                              Want the infinite stream of prime numbers?

                              echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc
                              

                              The dc program is one of the oldest tools in the Unix toolbox and the oldest "Unix language" that is still available today. It's a programmable calculator with a rather idiosyncratic but cool syntax.

                              To the extent that a syntax can be cool—which is to say not at all; that's like saying "this bitchin' thing we got goin' on in the hanging file folder R&D department"—that syntax is about as uncool as Billy Joel.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Klaus
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                                The fact that have no clue what's going on is no indication that the commands and the syntax of dc aren't cool 😉

                                This is an operational piece of history, which reflects both the engineering considerations and the programming knowledge of its time. You can admire it in the same way one admires, say, the engine of a 1937 Mercedes silver arrow.

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

                                  echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc

                                  infinite my ass.

                                  Screen Shot 2020-07-24 at 7.16.35 PM.png

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @Klaus said in For the computing history nerds:

                                    echo '2p3p[dl!d2+s!%0=@l!l^!<#]s#[s/0ds^]s@[p]s&[ddvs^3s!l#x0<&2+l.x]ds.x' | dc

                                    infinite my ass.

                                    Screen Shot 2020-07-24 at 7.16.35 PM.png

                                    AxtremusA Away
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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @jon-nyc said in For the computing history nerds:

                                    infinite my ass.

                                    Screen Shot 2020-07-24 at 7.16.35 PM.png

                                    @jon-nyc , time to upgrade, get more RAM.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Oh sure, blame the victim.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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