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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    There is an article today, where the Portland Police Chief talks about how the "protesters" are mostly white. The fact is, Portland is one of the whitest cities in the country.
    He mentions how it is uncomfortable to say the least, to be a black cop being yelled at by white people about the cop not being black enough, and of course expressed with venom by the mob.

    I watched live stream around 3 am. It was most interesting listening to the audio. A lot of these "protesters" have no clue, they are just there to be useful idiots on a summer night.

    I'll give the protesters one thing. Even at 3 am, they are overall laughing and carrying on, as if it's just a game where they can bust things up, chase cars, and know immediately when to act shocked because their rights were violated.

    Comments on the local TV web sites are almost all anti-protester. But, come election time, it will be all D's again, like it always is.

    Keep Portland weird stupid.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #11

      The people wearing masks are complaining about unmarked cars.

      Got it.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LarryL Offline
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        Larry
        wrote on last edited by
        #12

        The ACLU is a joke. The Washington Post is a joke. The claims made in the article are a joke. Arresting people who are destroying everything they can and have a stated goal of creating a police state themselves is not a "police state". It's stopping one from forming.

        I told you this was coming. Modern liberalism was a mental disease. The patient has died, and a fungus is eating its corpse. Meanwhile the democrat religion is busy creating altars to their gods, and unprincipled men and other fools are its apostles.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @Axtremus said in Police State:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

          Supposed “federal officers” jumped out of unmarked van grabbing people off the street without warrant and without probable cause. If you worry about federal forces imposing “police state,” that should worry you.

          Are you worried about a police state? I'm not.

          How about the precedent set at Chaz, where a leftist mob violently overthrew a neighborhood? Did that worry you? The precedent of the socially condoned riots in response to a viral video of a progressive sacrilege? Did that worry you? Is anybody really worried about anything or is everybody play acting emotional responses to whatever their tribe is supposed to respond to? is there a difference between a play acted emotion and a real one? Is there a difference between the rage a member of a mob feels because the mob around them is enraged, and the rage an individual feels because of something that happened to them personally?

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #13

          @Horace said in Police State:

          @Axtremus said in Police State:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

          Supposed “federal officers” jumped out of unmarked van grabbing people off the street without warrant and without probable cause. If you worry about federal forces imposing “police state,” that should worry you.

          Are you worried about a police state? I'm not.

          How about the precedent set at Chaz, where a leftist mob violently overthrew a neighborhood? Did that worry you? The precedent of the socially condoned riots in response to a viral video of a progressive sacrilege? Did that worry you? Is anybody really worried about anything or is everybody play acting emotional responses to whatever their tribe is supposed to respond to? is there a difference between a play acted emotion and a real one? Is there a difference between the rage a member of a mob feels because the mob around them is enraged, and the rage an individual feels because of something that happened to them personally?

          Bump for Ax.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @Horace said in Police State:

            @Axtremus said in Police State:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

            Supposed “federal officers” jumped out of unmarked van grabbing people off the street without warrant and without probable cause. If you worry about federal forces imposing “police state,” that should worry you.

            Are you worried about a police state? I'm not.

            How about the precedent set at Chaz, where a leftist mob violently overthrew a neighborhood? Did that worry you? The precedent of the socially condoned riots in response to a viral video of a progressive sacrilege? Did that worry you? Is anybody really worried about anything or is everybody play acting emotional responses to whatever their tribe is supposed to respond to? is there a difference between a play acted emotion and a real one? Is there a difference between the rage a member of a mob feels because the mob around them is enraged, and the rage an individual feels because of something that happened to them personally?

            Bump for Ax.

            L Offline
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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #14

            @Horace said in Police State:

            @Horace said in Police State:

            @Axtremus said in Police State:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

            Supposed “federal officers” jumped out of unmarked van grabbing people off the street without warrant and without probable cause. If you worry about federal forces imposing “police state,” that should worry you.

            Are you worried about a police state? I'm not.

            How about the precedent set at Chaz, where a leftist mob violently overthrew a neighborhood? Did that worry you? The precedent of the socially condoned riots in response to a viral video of a progressive sacrilege? Did that worry you? Is anybody really worried about anything or is everybody play acting emotional responses to whatever their tribe is supposed to respond to? is there a difference between a play acted emotion and a real one? Is there a difference between the rage a member of a mob feels because the mob around them is enraged, and the rage an individual feels because of something that happened to them personally?

            Bump for Ax.

            Not his style to return to a thread. Just start them.

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            • RainmanR Offline
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              Rainman
              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              Local news tonight showed video from last night, the same source I was viewing live at 3 am.

              As presented, it's the Mayor and Governor against Trump. That is not surprising at all of course, but it's obvious what the game is.

              Mayor and Gov would not meet with DHS representative, instead telling him via email or Twitter to get out of town. They emphasized that everything is fine with protesting, but that Trump is making things worse. The mayor even laid out a stupid 3-part plan to end the excesses in protesting, but of course federal Marshals are deliberately stomping on rights, so the plan cannot be implemented.

              What I can't figure, is that the Marshals are in the Federal courthouse, and come out on the sidewalk, use tear gas to disperse the crowd that wants to burn the federal courthouse down, or threaten to do so in between adding another layer of graffiti. Then the Marshals form a line, and disperse the protesters, everyone moving down the street. Rinse and repeat.

              Where does the federal authority end, IOW how far down the street can they go? Ax old buddy, you around? Ax would know. Ax always knows.

              And standing behind the Marshals doing nothing but chatting with each other? The Portland Police. They stood down while the rioters tear down the temporary fence, and throw it on the fire they built.

              Tonight should be great. It's a beautiful evening for a riot, not too hot, and it's a Friday, so maybe some working folks from out of town can come join the fun.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                It's interesting to me the left-leaning folk prancing around about all the slippery slopes Trump the Fascist represents, who never say a word about stuff like Chaz or the riots. The actual violence being used by actual people motivated by actual politics.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  Remember the good old days when the governor of a state asked for federal intervention because a farmer "occupied" federal lands?

                  Good times, eh?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    It's interesting to me the left-leaning folk prancing around about all the slippery slopes Trump the Fascist represents, who never say a word about stuff like Chaz or the riots. The actual violence being used by actual people motivated by actual politics.

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                    L Offline
                    Loki
                    wrote on last edited by Loki
                    #18

                    @Horace said in Police State:

                    It's interesting to me the left-leaning folk prancing around about all the slippery slopes Trump the Fascist represents, who never say a word about stuff like Chaz or the riots. The actual violence being used by actual people motivated by actual politics.

                    Yeah peaceful protestors at 3 am. And people buy this, I’m afraid it may be unwinnable for a while.

                    Best to withdraw from Portland and let the protesters run and ravage the city. It’s the only way people will return to their senses.

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                    • RainmanR Offline
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                      Rainman
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      The protests and baby riots have been going on every single night, for around 50 days now. Man, I'd hate to be a cop, and have my profession dragged through the mud, and be forced to accept every night the bottles of frozen water thrown at me, along with rocks, trash, chunks of wood, whatever.

                      In one sense, it's good, as one would expect even the most progressive would finally give in and vocalize a rising contempt towards these "protesters" and their endless Black Lives Matter chants, their statue-toppling, bond fires, and a big portion of downtown covered by graffiti.

                      But, nope. It's as if everything is moving even farther to the left, where the "leadership" protects the rioters even more than before, in their kowtowing posture and hatred of Trump.

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                      • L Loki

                        @Horace said in Police State:

                        @Horace said in Police State:

                        @Axtremus said in Police State:

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

                        Supposed “federal officers” jumped out of unmarked van grabbing people off the street without warrant and without probable cause. If you worry about federal forces imposing “police state,” that should worry you.

                        Are you worried about a police state? I'm not.

                        How about the precedent set at Chaz, where a leftist mob violently overthrew a neighborhood? Did that worry you? The precedent of the socially condoned riots in response to a viral video of a progressive sacrilege? Did that worry you? Is anybody really worried about anything or is everybody play acting emotional responses to whatever their tribe is supposed to respond to? is there a difference between a play acted emotion and a real one? Is there a difference between the rage a member of a mob feels because the mob around them is enraged, and the rage an individual feels because of something that happened to them personally?

                        Bump for Ax.

                        Not his style to return to a thread. Just start them.

                        JollyJ Offline
                        JollyJ Offline
                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #20

                        @Loki said in Police State:

                        @Horace said in Police State:

                        @Horace said in Police State:

                        @Axtremus said in Police State:

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/

                        Supposed “federal officers” jumped out of unmarked van grabbing people off the street without warrant and without probable cause. If you worry about federal forces imposing “police state,” that should worry you.

                        Are you worried about a police state? I'm not.

                        How about the precedent set at Chaz, where a leftist mob violently overthrew a neighborhood? Did that worry you? The precedent of the socially condoned riots in response to a viral video of a progressive sacrilege? Did that worry you? Is anybody really worried about anything or is everybody play acting emotional responses to whatever their tribe is supposed to respond to? is there a difference between a play acted emotion and a real one? Is there a difference between the rage a member of a mob feels because the mob around them is enraged, and the rage an individual feels because of something that happened to them personally?

                        Bump for Ax.

                        Not his style to return to a thread. Just start them.

                        Link to video

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          BTW...If you don't want the Feds in your city, don't allow a Federal Courthouse to be vandalized, painted in graffiti and the windows broken.

                          Secondly, if you don't want your face broken (literally), do not throw tear gas canisters back at a federal agent.

                          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/leftists-flip-feds-descend-portland-bring-peace-streets-democrat-leaders-blame-trump-violence-ignoring-blm-rioters/

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • L Offline
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                            Loki
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #22

                            The so called Police State had another “uneventful” evening of peaceful protesters building a campfire to stay warm I suppose.

                            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/19/portland-police-declare-saturday-night-protests-riot/5467736002/

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #23

                              Such a beautiful city. It'll be years before it's restored, and before I return.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • L Loki

                                The so called Police State had another “uneventful” evening of peaceful protesters building a campfire to stay warm I suppose.

                                https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/19/portland-police-declare-saturday-night-protests-riot/5467736002/

                                JollyJ Offline
                                JollyJ Offline
                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #24

                                @Loki said in Police State:

                                The so called Police State had another “uneventful” evening of peaceful protesters building a campfire to stay warm I suppose.

                                https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/19/portland-police-declare-saturday-night-protests-riot/5467736002/

                                Heard a Portland cop interviewed on the radio this morning. He was leaving as fast as he could find another job.

                                He talked about one smaller city in the geographical area, where he had an application in and was hoping to land the job...Less money, much lower stress.

                                The problem with an exodus from the department, is that the only thing they will have left is old guys waiting on their pension, and will do the minimum to try to keep their jobs, and the young idiots who nobody else wants.

                                That does not make for a good police force.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  You mean the folks peacefully rioting?

                                  AxtremusA Offline
                                  AxtremusA Offline
                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @Jolly said in Police State:

                                  You mean the folks peacefully rioting?

                                  No warrant, no probable cause.
                                  Just random people snatched off the streets.
                                  By unidentified armed forces.
                                  Think about it.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    Remember the good old days when the governor of a state asked for federal intervention because a farmer "occupied" federal lands?

                                    Good times, eh?

                                    AxtremusA Offline
                                    AxtremusA Offline
                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #26

                                    @George-K said in Police State:

                                    Remember the good old days when the governor of a state asked for federal intervention because a farmer "occupied" federal lands?

                                    Good times, eh?

                                    Good intentioned cooperation between state/local government with the federal government; times were indeed better then.

                                    Today, federal forces just barge in despite local/state government’s objection.

                                    No warrant, no probable cause.
                                    Just random people snatched off the streets.
                                    By unidentified armed forces.
                                    Think about it.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      The people wearing masks are complaining about unmarked cars.

                                      Got it.

                                      AxtremusA Offline
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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @George-K said in Police State:

                                      The people wearing masks are complaining about unmarked cars.

                                      Got it.

                                      No warrant, no probable cause.
                                      Just random people snatched off the streets.
                                      By unidentified armed forces.
                                      Think about it.

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #28

                                        Atta Boy, Ax 'ol buddy!
                                        You show 'em.
                                        They're all dumb.
                                        You and me, man. We are the genious ones!
                                        If they'd only listen. Know what I mean?

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          I suspect that somewhere in the backs of their mind, those sympathetic to the mindlessly destructive forces of the left realize that these things do not come for free. Maybe Ax is right to fear retribution against his political tribe.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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