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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #28

    @Jolly

    Okay so you equate libertarianism with anarchism. Don’t agree but all the same, I get it from your standpoint.

    Still;

    Should defined vice and morality be a federal or state jurisdiction? If the former how do you propose to enshrine it?

    Elbows up!

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #29

      I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality. I think societies decide at which level bad morals cause severe societal problems or societal decline and enact laws to control undesirable behavior.

      If this be true, then usually the most effective government is the one closest to the people, so I think much of this is best done at a state level. However, I'm sure some things can be agreed upon to be almost universally bad for society and those laws could be federal in nature.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality. I think societies decide at which level bad morals cause severe societal problems or societal decline and enact laws to control undesirable behavior.

        If this be true, then usually the most effective government is the one closest to the people, so I think much of this is best done at a state level. However, I'm sure some things can be agreed upon to be almost universally bad for society and those laws could be federal in nature.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #30

        @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

        I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality.

        That's one way of looking it at. I would prefer to say that it's codifying the protection of the individual. So, in that case murder is clearly illegal, as is sexual abuse, robbery etc.

        Pornography, drug use, and gambling, just to pick three topics, become a little more problematic from this perspective, since people are choosing to become involved in an activity that may be harmful to themselves.. I think a great disservice has been done over many years in treating drug addicts as criminals.

        I was only joking

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by Mik
          #31

          I am skeptical of federal behavioral laws that fall outside the narrow limits of federal powers as defined by the constitution.

          I lean toward libertarian myself, and don’t see it as anarchy. But even it must have limits.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

            I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality.

            That's one way of looking it at. I would prefer to say that it's codifying the protection of the individual. So, in that case murder is clearly illegal, as is sexual abuse, robbery etc.

            Pornography, drug use, and gambling, just to pick three topics, become a little more problematic from this perspective, since people are choosing to become involved in an activity that may be harmful to themselves.. I think a great disservice has been done over many years in treating drug addicts as criminals.

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            Renauda
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            #32

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

            @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

            I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality.

            That's one way of looking it at. I would prefer to say that it's codifying the protection of the individual. So, in that case murder is clearly illegal, as is sexual abuse, robbery etc.

            Protection of the individual is more to my thinking as well. The notion of codifying morality conjures up something entirely different from the Western world’s past that is more nasty and brutish than what has come to characterise an open society of today.

            Elbows up!

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
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              #33

              Wait… tell me more about the German shepherd and the girl…

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • KlausK Offline
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                #34

                Availability of porn roughly correlates with measures of freedom and wealth.

                I for one would not want to live in a society that bans pornography. The only ones that do this successfully are the Taliban.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #35

                  Yeah. They only have goats and little boys.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                    #36

                    You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Yeah. They only have goats and little boys.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #37

                      @Mik said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                      Yeah. They only have goats

                      A nanny state?

                      I was only joking

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

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                        Klaus
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                        #38

                        @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                        You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                        Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                          You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                          Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                          @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                          You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                          Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times.

                          Yeah, me too. Ax is alright.

                          (That'll be $5, Ax)

                          I was only joking

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
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                            #40

                            I've met him too, but he never invited me over.... hmmm...what is he hiding?

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #41

                              A dungeon?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                                Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #42

                                @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                                Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

                                I haven't. Based on what interactions I've had with him, I don't have an overwhelming desire to rub elbows with him.

                                Assuming he has a wife (female) and children, I wish them well.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • KlausK Offline
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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #43

                                  You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                    #44

                                    @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                    You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

                                    I suspect I meet and interact with more people than you do.

                                    I sat here and counted up just yesterday. I had conversations with 28 different folks.

                                    Yeah, it was a slow day...Do you have that many individual conversations in a day? In a week?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #45

                                      I don't meet many actual people. Just customers. And engineers, of course. And management.

                                      I think that might be why I come here. It makes real life seem better, somehow.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Horace
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                                        #46

                                        Leaving the house is rarely the best decision.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                          You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

                                          I suspect I meet and interact with more people than you do.

                                          I sat here and counted up just yesterday. I had conversations with 28 different folks.

                                          Yeah, it was a slow day...Do you have that many individual conversations in a day? In a week?

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                                          Klaus
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                                          #47

                                          @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                          @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                          You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

                                          I suspect I meet and interact with more people than you do.

                                          I sat here and counted up just yesterday. I had conversations with 28 different folks.

                                          Yeah, it was a slow day...Do you have that many individual conversations in a day? In a week?

                                          Not sure whether that counts, but I've given a lecture in front of 400 people today, including a lengthy Q&A.

                                          But my point was that you should meet a few TNCR folks face to face every once in a while and not build ones image of a person merely from your interaction on the forum.

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