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  • George KG George K

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

    I dare say fatty foods...kill more people

    That's questionable. Remembrer when they told us eggs were bad for us because cholesterol?

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @George-K said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

    I dare say fatty foods...kill more people

    That's questionable. Remembrer when they told us eggs were bad for us because cholesterol?

    OK, obesity kills more people. And those people eat a lot of fatty and sugary food. I suppose it's possible to become obese from eating too much broccoli, but I don't suppose it's ever been accomplished.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      The libertarian argument is a much better one than the bogus JC quotes, still you can't help thinking a lot of people are getting damaged by this.

      OTOH, we don't ban alcohol, or violent movies, or fatty foods, or lots of other things that probably aren't that great for us, because essentially they're fun. I dare say fatty foods and alcohol kill more people than pornography.

      The preaching can get a bit old, too. We all do it, of course. You should hear me when I get started on industrial safety. I can literally talk for minutes about it.

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      @Doctor-Phibes

      The libertarian argument is a much better one than the bogus JC quotes, still you can't help thinking a lot of people are getting damaged by this.

      “Bogus JC quotes”. Makes sense to me.

      Too bad about people being damaged by it all. Am sure it happens but so long as they are consenting adults it is of no concern to me. A bit like gambling. It’s a human vice.

      Best that can be done is to regulate it through licensing and other fees and levies.

      Elbows up!

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        The libertarian argument is a much better one than the bogus JC quotes, still you can't help thinking a lot of people are getting damaged by this.

        OTOH, we don't ban alcohol, or violent movies, or fatty foods, or lots of other things that probably aren't that great for us, because essentially they're fun. I dare say fatty foods and alcohol kill more people than pornography.

        The preaching can get a bit old, too. We all do it, of course. You should hear me when I get started on industrial safety. I can literally talk for minutes about it.

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        Jolly
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

        The libertarian argument is a much better one than the bogus JC quotes, still you can't help thinking a lot of people are getting damaged by this.

        OTOH, we don't ban alcohol, or violent movies, or fatty foods, or lots of other things that probably aren't that great for us, because essentially they're fun. I dare say fatty foods and alcohol kill more people than pornography.

        The preaching can get a bit old, too. We all do it, of course. You should hear me when I get started on industrial safety. I can literally talk for minutes about it.

        Is prostitution fun? Is it a victimless crime? How about pornography? Maybe just child sex pornography is bad?

        Even in a simply sectarian world, libertarianism won't work. Too much human wreckage and mess to clean up. Rules work. Good laws work. Societies can agree on what is good for that society and try to steer people in that direction by legal and other means. Simple shaming used to be quite effective.

        Is it perfect? No. Neither is Man. But anarchy is not the answer and I think most people inherently know that.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Renauda
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          #28

          @Jolly

          Okay so you equate libertarianism with anarchism. Don’t agree but all the same, I get it from your standpoint.

          Still;

          Should defined vice and morality be a federal or state jurisdiction? If the former how do you propose to enshrine it?

          Elbows up!

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            Jolly
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            I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality. I think societies decide at which level bad morals cause severe societal problems or societal decline and enact laws to control undesirable behavior.

            If this be true, then usually the most effective government is the one closest to the people, so I think much of this is best done at a state level. However, I'm sure some things can be agreed upon to be almost universally bad for society and those laws could be federal in nature.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality. I think societies decide at which level bad morals cause severe societal problems or societal decline and enact laws to control undesirable behavior.

              If this be true, then usually the most effective government is the one closest to the people, so I think much of this is best done at a state level. However, I'm sure some things can be agreed upon to be almost universally bad for society and those laws could be federal in nature.

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              @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

              I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality.

              That's one way of looking it at. I would prefer to say that it's codifying the protection of the individual. So, in that case murder is clearly illegal, as is sexual abuse, robbery etc.

              Pornography, drug use, and gambling, just to pick three topics, become a little more problematic from this perspective, since people are choosing to become involved in an activity that may be harmful to themselves.. I think a great disservice has been done over many years in treating drug addicts as criminals.

              I was only joking

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                #31

                I am skeptical of federal behavioral laws that fall outside the narrow limits of federal powers as defined by the constitution.

                I lean toward libertarian myself, and don’t see it as anarchy. But even it must have limits.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                  I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality.

                  That's one way of looking it at. I would prefer to say that it's codifying the protection of the individual. So, in that case murder is clearly illegal, as is sexual abuse, robbery etc.

                  Pornography, drug use, and gambling, just to pick three topics, become a little more problematic from this perspective, since people are choosing to become involved in an activity that may be harmful to themselves.. I think a great disservice has been done over many years in treating drug addicts as criminals.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                  @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                  I think law at it's most basic level is codified morality.

                  That's one way of looking it at. I would prefer to say that it's codifying the protection of the individual. So, in that case murder is clearly illegal, as is sexual abuse, robbery etc.

                  Protection of the individual is more to my thinking as well. The notion of codifying morality conjures up something entirely different from the Western world’s past that is more nasty and brutish than what has come to characterise an open society of today.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Wait… tell me more about the German shepherd and the girl…

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Availability of porn roughly correlates with measures of freedom and wealth.

                      I for one would not want to live in a society that bans pornography. The only ones that do this successfully are the Taliban.

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                        #35

                        Yeah. They only have goats and little boys.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Jolly
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                          #36

                          You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Yeah. They only have goats and little boys.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Mik said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                            Yeah. They only have goats

                            A nanny state?

                            I was only joking

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

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                              Klaus
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                              @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                              You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                              Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                                Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

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                                @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                                Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times.

                                Yeah, me too. Ax is alright.

                                (That'll be $5, Ax)

                                I was only joking

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                                  Mik
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                                  #40

                                  I've met him too, but he never invited me over.... hmmm...what is he hiding?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Jolly
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                                    A dungeon?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                      You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                                      Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

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                                      Jolly
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                                      @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                      @Jolly said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                      You've been to Ax's dungeon basement?

                                      Funny you should ask, but I have actually met Ax and his family multiple times. What about you?

                                      I haven't. Based on what interactions I've had with him, I don't have an overwhelming desire to rub elbows with him.

                                      Assuming he has a wife (female) and children, I wish them well.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

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                                          @Klaus said in Selling Digital Pieces of Yourself:

                                          You should occasionally meet with real people, Jolly. It puts things in perspective.

                                          I suspect I meet and interact with more people than you do.

                                          I sat here and counted up just yesterday. I had conversations with 28 different folks.

                                          Yeah, it was a slow day...Do you have that many individual conversations in a day? In a week?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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