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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

    @Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

    Trump may lose the general. Anybody else will be annihilated. That Trump core support would say fuck you and go watch football or something else ...

    A good chunk of them would vote RFK Jr.

    Maybe in your neck of the woods. Down here, I don't see Trump as a candidate, I see him as a movement.

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    LuFins Dad
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    @Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

    @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

    @Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

    Trump may lose the general. Anybody else will be annihilated. That Trump core support would say fuck you and go watch football or something else ...

    A good chunk of them would vote RFK Jr.

    Maybe in your neck of the woods. Down here, I don't see Trump as a candidate, I see him as a movement.

    A bowel movement. Trump’s bully boys are far worse than Bernie Bros.

    The Brad

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

      @Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

      Trump may lose the general. Anybody else will be annihilated. That Trump core support would say fuck you and go watch football or something else ...

      A good chunk of them would vote RFK Jr.

      Maybe in your neck of the woods. Down here, I don't see Trump as a candidate, I see him as a movement.

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #33

      @Jolly

      Down here, I don't see Trump as a candidate, I see him as a movement.

      Talk about low hanging fruit!

      You really are the reincarnation of Sen. Beauregard Claghorn, aren’t you?

      Elbows up!

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #34

        Trump lost Colorado by 17 points, iirc. His absence on the ballot is probably moot.

        But, this is an interesting precedent - removing a candidate you don’t like through lawfare.

        I believe there are other states looking at similar lawsuits.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #35

          Gorsuch:

          The Colorado Supreme Court cited Gorsuch's ruling as cover for its unprecedented decision to kick Trump off a primary ballot based on the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution.

          "As then-Judge Gorsuch recognized in Hassan, it is 'a state's legitimate interest in protecting the integrity and practical functioning of the political process' that 'permits it to exclude from the ballot candidates who are constitutionally prohibited from assuming office,'" the state opinion reads.

          In 2012, Gorsuch dealt with a far less weighty case. It is worth pointing out that his decision is not even three pages long.

          Still, the appeals court was asked to consider whether then-Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler had acted properly when his office decided that Abdul Hassan, an independent candidate for president, could not be on the state's ballot because Hassan was ineligible to be president. Hassan, who was born in Guyana, was a naturalized citizen but in Colorado's view, he was not a natural-born citizen. While the Supreme Court has never definitely ruled on the phrase, it has been taken to mean that a candidate must be born on US soil or born to a parent who is an American citizen.

          Gorusch found Colorado was well within its rights. Interestingly, there is one more tie to the 2012 case. Gessler is now one of Trump's lawyers.

          Gorsuch's reasoning sounds...sound. The Constitution is clear on the qualifications for a person to be president. It'll be interesting to see how/if Colorado's lawyers prove that Trump is disqualified because of a crime that he was not indicted for or found guilty of.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Mik
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            #36

            Ah, but they’re already pointing to that decision to claim hypocrisy when the cases are related only by being part of the 14th.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              LuFins Dad
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              #37

              Do they realize that these ridiculous cases actually makes the legitimate cases look bad? They make the hollow claims of legal conspiracies from Trump actually ring true?

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                Do they realize that these ridiculous cases actually makes the legitimate cases look bad? They make the hollow claims of legal conspiracies from Trump actually ring true?

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                George K
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                #38

                @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                They make the hollow claims of legal conspiracies from Trump actually ring true?

                If you're going to strike at the king, you'd better kill him.

                Also, I've seen several talking heads comment about "unelected judges." My understanding is that vacancies in Colorado are appointed by the governor, but after a certain period of time, they are up for election.

                When a vacancy on the court occurs, a commission established by the state constitution reviews submitted applications.[5] The commission submits three names to the Governor. The Governor of Colorado then has 15 days to select the next justice from that list.

                The justice selected serves a provisional two-year term before facing a retention election. The voters then chose whether to retain or not retain the justice. If the justice is retained, they go on to serve a full 10-year term before the next retention election.

                So it looks like only one of the Justices was appointed. And I'm not sure about that one. The other 6 went through a reappointment election.

                Screenshot 2023-12-20 at 7.00.29 PM.png

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
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                  #39

                  They told me I should be afraid of our democracy being stolen by paperwork, and they were right.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    The Lieutenant Governor of California.

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Copper
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                      #41

                      I think now we can all agree with Mr. Trump. It is rigged.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #42

                        Read the last paragraph...carefully.

                        The Lt. Gov. probably missed that day in Con Law.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Horace
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                          #43

                          35 for non insurrectionists. 40 for insurrectionists. Wrong on all counts.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #44

                            This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

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                              Horace
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                              #45

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                              This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

                              They don't care.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

                                They don't care.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #46

                                @Horace said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

                                They don't care.

                                I thought it was the Republicans that were stupid. Seems like Democrats are stupiderer.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Horace said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                  This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

                                  They don't care.

                                  I thought it was the Republicans that were stupid. Seems like Democrats are stupiderer.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #47

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                  @Horace said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                  This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

                                  They don't care.

                                  I thought it was the Republicans that were stupid. Seems like Democrats are stupiderer.

                                  Just self interest. Whoever gets credit for that letter has ambition within her tribe.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @89th said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                    For the sake of the Republican Party (such a good opportunity to bring in fresh energy, a unifier, perhaps one that can attract the power of the female or Latino votes that’ll have long term impacts on future elections), as well as for the sake of the country to not deal with another Trump vs Biden decision (and Trump election loss denial again…), I am very hopeful states find legal ways to keep Trump off the ballot. Figured it might be handed to them easily with criminal case outcomes, but at least CO is giving it the old college try!

                                    Did Trump inspire the insurrection? Obviously. Did he participate in it? Nope. Insurrection is different from his election denial and lying and desires to keep the results from being certified by Congress.

                                    Here’s a thought… Maybe it wasn’t an actual insurrection at all… Hell, most of the charges gild for January 6th are unlawful parading. Ooohhh, scary.

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                                    89th
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                                    #48

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                    Did Trump inspire the insurrection? Obviously. Did he participate in it? Nope. Insurrection is different from his election denial and lying and desires to keep the results from being certified by Congress.

                                    Here’s a thought… Maybe it wasn’t an actual insurrection at all… Hell, most of the charges gild for January 6th are unlawful parading. Ooohhh, scary.

                                    I don't think the CO ruling will pass SCOTUS. They'll probably give their decision in late Feb or early March. Either way... I've said it a 1000x. If Obama lost his reelection in 2012 and thousands of BLM-type mob folks stormed the capitol the prevent the certification of Romney winning the election, how would you (the general you) feel? Until I see evidence really supporting the election fraud claims, I have ZERO problem putting the full power of the law against those who refused to accept a free and fair election result. It's sacred to how our country operates and I don't care what side of the election you're on. It started as a parade, and ended in insurrection fueled by Presidential lies.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      #49

                                      Applied selectively, of course.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #50

                                        I'm literally doing the opposite of applying it selectively. If Obama did all that in 2012 in a loss to Romney, I'm sure you'd be calling for Congress not to certify Romney's win.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #51

                                          I believe in what you do not -fairness.

                                          Currently, TPTB are trying to fix this election by every means possible. It's very obvious. Open your eyes.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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