Trump Disqualified in Colorado

[jon-nyc]

@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Trump may lose the general. Anybody else will be annihilated. That Trump core support would say fuck you and go watch football or something else ...

A good chunk of them would vote RFK Jr.

[Renauda]

@Jolly

Trump may lose the general. Anybody else will be annihilated.

I get the first sentence but the second “Anybody else will be annihilated” doesn’t seem to follow.

Can you clarify what you mean with that statement?

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Trump may lose the general. Anybody else will be annihilated. That Trump core support would say fuck you and go watch football or something else ...

A good chunk of them would vote RFK Jr.

Maybe in your neck of the woods. Down here, I don't see Trump as a candidate, I see him as a movement.

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

@jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

@Jolly said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Trump may lose the general. Anybody else will be annihilated. That Trump core support would say fuck you and go watch football or something else ...

A good chunk of them would vote RFK Jr.

Maybe in your neck of the woods. Down here, I don't see Trump as a candidate, I see him as a movement.

A bowel movement. Trump’s bully boys are far worse than Bernie Bros.

[Renauda]

@Jolly

Down here, I don't see Trump as a candidate, I see him as a movement.

Talk about low hanging fruit!

You really are the reincarnation of Sen. Beauregard Claghorn, aren’t you?

[George K]

Trump lost Colorado by 17 points, iirc. His absence on the ballot is probably moot.

But, this is an interesting precedent - removing a candidate you don’t like through lawfare.

I believe there are other states looking at similar lawsuits.

[George K]

Gorsuch:

The Colorado Supreme Court cited Gorsuch's ruling as cover for its unprecedented decision to kick Trump off a primary ballot based on the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution.

"As then-Judge Gorsuch recognized in Hassan, it is 'a state's legitimate interest in protecting the integrity and practical functioning of the political process' that 'permits it to exclude from the ballot candidates who are constitutionally prohibited from assuming office,'" the state opinion reads.

In 2012, Gorsuch dealt with a far less weighty case. It is worth pointing out that his decision is not even three pages long.

Still, the appeals court was asked to consider whether then-Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler had acted properly when his office decided that Abdul Hassan, an independent candidate for president, could not be on the state's ballot because Hassan was ineligible to be president. Hassan, who was born in Guyana, was a naturalized citizen but in Colorado's view, he was not a natural-born citizen. While the Supreme Court has never definitely ruled on the phrase, it has been taken to mean that a candidate must be born on US soil or born to a parent who is an American citizen.

Gorusch found Colorado was well within its rights. Interestingly, there is one more tie to the 2012 case. Gessler is now one of Trump's lawyers.

Gorsuch's reasoning sounds...sound. The Constitution is clear on the qualifications for a person to be president. It'll be interesting to see how/if Colorado's lawyers prove that Trump is disqualified because of a crime that he was not indicted for or found guilty of.

[Mik]

Ah, but they’re already pointing to that decision to claim hypocrisy when the cases are related only by being part of the 14th.

[LuFins Dad]

Do they realize that these ridiculous cases actually makes the legitimate cases look bad? They make the hollow claims of legal conspiracies from Trump actually ring true?

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

They make the hollow claims of legal conspiracies from Trump actually ring true?

If you're going to strike at the king, you'd better kill him.

Also, I've seen several talking heads comment about "unelected judges." My understanding is that vacancies in Colorado are appointed by the governor, but after a certain period of time, they are up for election.

When a vacancy on the court occurs, a commission established by the state constitution reviews submitted applications.[5] The commission submits three names to the Governor. The Governor of Colorado then has 15 days to select the next justice from that list.

The justice selected serves a provisional two-year term before facing a retention election. The voters then chose whether to retain or not retain the justice. If the justice is retained, they go on to serve a full 10-year term before the next retention election.

So it looks like only one of the Justices was appointed. And I'm not sure about that one. The other 6 went through a reappointment election.

[Horace]

They told me I should be afraid of our democracy being stolen by paperwork, and they were right.

[George K]

The Lieutenant Governor of California.

[Copper]

I think now we can all agree with Mr. Trump. It is rigged.

[George K]

Read the last paragraph...carefully.

The Lt. Gov. probably missed that day in Con Law.

[Horace]

35 for non insurrectionists. 40 for insurrectionists. Wrong on all counts.

[Doctor Phibes]

This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

They don't care.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

They don't care.

I thought it was the Republicans that were stupid. Seems like Democrats are stupiderer.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

@Horace said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

This is so dumb. Don't these eejits realise it will win Trump votes?

They don't care.

I thought it was the Republicans that were stupid. Seems like Democrats are stupiderer.

Just self interest. Whoever gets credit for that letter has ambition within her tribe.

[89th]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

Did Trump inspire the insurrection? Obviously. Did he participate in it? Nope. Insurrection is different from his election denial and lying and desires to keep the results from being certified by Congress.

Here’s a thought… Maybe it wasn’t an actual insurrection at all… Hell, most of the charges gild for January 6th are unlawful parading. Ooohhh, scary.

I don't think the CO ruling will pass SCOTUS. They'll probably give their decision in late Feb or early March. Either way... I've said it a 1000x. If Obama lost his reelection in 2012 and thousands of BLM-type mob folks stormed the capitol the prevent the certification of Romney winning the election, how would you (the general you) feel? Until I see evidence really supporting the election fraud claims, I have ZERO problem putting the full power of the law against those who refused to accept a free and fair election result. It's sacred to how our country operates and I don't care what side of the election you're on. It started as a parade, and ended in insurrection fueled by Presidential lies.