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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    State supreme court says 14th amendment applies, and he can not be on the ballot.

    Of to SCOTUS we go....

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      alt text

      The Brad

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      • HoraceH Online
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        Horace
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        That's fun.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          He's been convicted of no crime (yet). SCOTUS will overturn.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #5

            A few forum members are going to need to clean their keyboards and monitors (and not because of scotch)

            The Brad

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              "In other words, a state court has found Trump guilty of a federal crime with which he's never even been charged, based on informal allegations of unlawful conduct that took place 2,000 miles from the court's jurisdiction. "

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                "In other words, a state court has found Trump guilty of a federal crime with which he's never even been charged, based on informal allegations of unlawful conduct that took place 2,000 miles from the court's jurisdiction. "

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                @George-K said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                "In other words, a state court has found Trump guilty of a federal crime with which he's never even been charged, based on informal allegations of unlawful conduct that took place 2,000 miles from the court's jurisdiction. "

                That’s seems sufficiently uninformed to have been written by turley. Was it?

                Having said that, this whole avenue of attack is weak and I have no doubt SCOTUS will shut it down.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  4-3. The interesting thing is that the judges are all capital D, and 3 still voted that Trump’s actions did not constitute insurrection.

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @George-K said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                    "In other words, a state court has found Trump guilty of a federal crime with which he's never even been charged, based on informal allegations of unlawful conduct that took place 2,000 miles from the court's jurisdiction. "

                    That’s seems sufficiently uninformed to have been written by turley. Was it?

                    Having said that, this whole avenue of attack is weak and I have no doubt SCOTUS will shut it down.

                    George KG Offline
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                    @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                    That’s seems sufficiently uninformed to have been written by turley. Was it?

                    No. It was Ed Morrissey. My bad, I copied without proper attribution like an Ivy League president.

                    Why uninformed?

                    State court: ✅
                    Found guilty: ✅
                    Federal Crime: ✅
                    Not charged: ✅
                    Informal allegations: ✅
                    No jurisdiction in federal matters: ✅

                    What did I get wrong?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      The 14th amendment doesn’t mention anything about convictions for federal crimes.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        The 14th amendment doesn’t mention anything about convictions for federal crimes.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                        The 14th amendment doesn’t mention anything about convictions for federal crimes.

                        Fair enough. Does Colorado have jurisdiction over federal elections?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
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                          States make all kinds of rules about ballot access.

                          You should read up on the clause. I think it’s vague and unworkable. SCOTUS needs to kill it outright.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            A few forum members are going to need to clean their keyboards and monitors (and not because of scotch)

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                            A few forum members are going to need to clean their keyboards and monitors (and not because of scotch)

                            This is almost as arousing as those pictures of Hillary wearing orange.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              States make all kinds of rules about ballot access.

                              You should read up on the clause. I think it’s vague and unworkable. SCOTUS needs to kill it outright.

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                              States make all kinds of rules about ballot access.

                              For voters or candidates?

                              You should read up on the clause. I think it’s vague and unworkable. SCOTUS needs to kill it outright.

                              I did read it. You're right, it is vague. The language is also convoluted and confusing.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @George-K said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                "In other words, a state court has found Trump guilty of a federal crime with which he's never even been charged, based on informal allegations of unlawful conduct that took place 2,000 miles from the court's jurisdiction. "

                                That’s seems sufficiently uninformed to have been written by turley. Was it?

                                Having said that, this whole avenue of attack is weak and I have no doubt SCOTUS will shut it down.

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                                George K
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                                @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                That’s seems sufficiently uninformed to have been written by turley. Was it?

                                Turley


                                The Colorado Supreme Court has issued an unsigned opinion disqualifying Trump from the ballot: "The sum of these parts is this: President Trump is disqualified from holding the office of President under Section Three; because he is disqualified."

                                This ends a string of losses for advocates of this dangerous novel theory. They finally found a court that would embrace what the court admits is a case of "first impression." My first impression remains that same. The court is dead wrong in my view.

                                It is striking that the court relies on Schenck v. U.S., where the Court upheld the denial of core free speech rights of a socialist opposing a war. The opinion of the Colorado Supreme Court is so sweeping that it would allow for tit-for-tat removals of candidates from ballots

                                The opinion is remarkable in how the four justices adopted the most sweeping interpretations to get over each barrier. The result is lack of a limiting principle. I view the opinion as strikingly anti-democratic in what it now allows states to do in blue and red states alike.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Well some good came of it then.

                                    Just kidding- obviously this is ridiculous and should be overturned

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
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                                      What does Colorado want to be? Oregon East?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @jon-nyc said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                        The 14th amendment doesn’t mention anything about convictions for federal crimes.

                                        Fair enough. Does Colorado have jurisdiction over federal elections?

                                        CopperC Online
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                                        Copper
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                                        @George-K said in Trump Disqualified in Colorado:

                                        Does Colorado have jurisdiction over federal elections?

                                        I believe there are no federal elections.

                                        Each State has its own process to choose electors.

                                        Article II of the Constitution

                                        Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

                                        https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/article-2/

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                                          Just curious, if this were a normal citizen would it be expedited to the SCOTUS just as quickly?

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