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Murder of a bicyclist.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 16 Sept 2023, 02:22 last edited by jon-nyc
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    The 64-year-old, who was a retired California police chief, was riding his bicycle along Tenaya Way and Centennial Parkway on August 14 when he was killed in a hit-and-run.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Mik
      wrote on 16 Sept 2023, 02:27 last edited by
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      Again, I could be persuaded to reverse my opposition to capital punishment in certain cases.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Horace
        wrote on 16 Sept 2023, 03:01 last edited by
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        words fail

        Education is extremely important.

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          89th
          wrote on 16 Sept 2023, 03:11 last edited by
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          If only they had evidence

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            Copper
            wrote on 16 Sept 2023, 14:09 last edited by
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            capital punishment

            quickly

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              George K
              wrote on 17 Sept 2023, 01:26 last edited by
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              From the RWEC...

              Comment on Twitter has focused heavily on the racial component of the murder. It is true, as many have said, that if the races were reversed this would be iconic, world-famous proof of structural racism. Joe Biden likely would give a speech about it.

              Obviously, one shouldn’t go too far in this direction. It would be folly to draw broad conclusions from a single incident (although that happened, for example, in the case of George Floyd). This is an extreme case, and the young men who committed this crime should, in my opinion, be executed.

              But while extreme, it is also one instance of a very widespread problem. We can say, empirically, that there is a terrible sickness in the black community. In my state, blacks commit serious crimes at ten times the per capita rate of whites. That is according to official government statistics. I doubt that the numbers would be much different in other states.

              The United States is in the midst of a crime wave, and the crimes are being committed disproportionately by blacks. It is time to stop bloviating about racism and start holding criminals–of all races–accountable.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                17 Sept 2023, 01:26

                From the RWEC...

                Comment on Twitter has focused heavily on the racial component of the murder. It is true, as many have said, that if the races were reversed this would be iconic, world-famous proof of structural racism. Joe Biden likely would give a speech about it.

                Obviously, one shouldn’t go too far in this direction. It would be folly to draw broad conclusions from a single incident (although that happened, for example, in the case of George Floyd). This is an extreme case, and the young men who committed this crime should, in my opinion, be executed.

                But while extreme, it is also one instance of a very widespread problem. We can say, empirically, that there is a terrible sickness in the black community. In my state, blacks commit serious crimes at ten times the per capita rate of whites. That is according to official government statistics. I doubt that the numbers would be much different in other states.

                The United States is in the midst of a crime wave, and the crimes are being committed disproportionately by blacks. It is time to stop bloviating about racism and start holding criminals–of all races–accountable.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 17 Sept 2023, 12:16 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Murder of a bicyclist.:

                From the RWEC...

                Comment on Twitter has focused heavily on the racial component of the murder. It is true, as many have said, that if the races were reversed this would be iconic, world-famous proof of structural racism. Joe Biden likely would give a speech about it.

                Obviously, one shouldn’t go too far in this direction. It would be folly to draw broad conclusions from a single incident (although that happened, for example, in the case of George Floyd). This is an extreme case, and the young men who committed this crime should, in my opinion, be executed.

                But while extreme, it is also one instance of a very widespread problem. We can say, empirically, that there is a terrible sickness in the black community. In my state, blacks commit serious crimes at ten times the per capita rate of whites. That is according to official government statistics. I doubt that the numbers would be much different in other states.

                The United States is in the midst of a crime wave, and the crimes are being committed disproportionately by blacks. It is time to stop bloviating about racism and start holding criminals–of all races–accountable.

                I agree.

                And I have another proposal...Instead of sending some of the lower-level lawbreakers to juvie, send them to a regional Army boot camp. The boot camp would be modeled after the National Guard Challenge programs, but of longer duration and with more security.

                Inmates (or whatever you wish to call them) would do serious classwork for a GED. They will enjoy the parameters of a rigid military life. They will receive counseling. They will receive classes on life skills, including financial, home economics, basic manners and an introduction to various trades.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 15:06 last edited by
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                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/las-vegas-teens-charged-in-hit-and-run-killing-of-bicyclist-that-was-allegedly-filmed-get-trial-date/ar-AA1iN7Hq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5643bf8d2efc455da46e6540a350ab95&ei=12

                  Caught and charged. Giving face tattoos a bad name.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    25 Oct 2023, 15:06

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/las-vegas-teens-charged-in-hit-and-run-killing-of-bicyclist-that-was-allegedly-filmed-get-trial-date/ar-AA1iN7Hq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5643bf8d2efc455da46e6540a350ab95&ei=12

                    Caught and charged. Giving face tattoos a bad name.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 16:37 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Murder of a bicyclist.:

                    Caught and charged. Giving face tattoos a bad name.

                    Untrue! It's the face tattoos that caused him to do it! Everyone knows that.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 16:46 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 16:54 last edited by
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                        I think the kids do that to build up some prison cred. They know where they’re going.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          kluurs
                          wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 18:43 last edited by
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                          That kind of behavior worked out well for the Manson girls.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 18:07 last edited by
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 18:08 last edited by
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                              Nice.

                              I was only joking

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 18:12 last edited by
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                                narratives attached to out of context snapshots of facial expressions are generally garbage. I’m more than willing to give the lawyer the benefit of doubt.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  26 Oct 2023, 18:12

                                  narratives attached to out of context snapshots of facial expressions are generally garbage. I’m more than willing to give the lawyer the benefit of doubt.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 18:19 last edited by
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                                  @Horace said in Murder of a bicyclist.:

                                  narratives attached to out of context snapshots of facial expressions are generally garbage. I’m more than willing to give the lawyer the benefit of doubt.

                                  Yes, you're right. Who knows what was happening here?

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 20:05 last edited by
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                                    Whatever it is, laughter is out of place. he was flipping off the victim's family as well.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      26 Oct 2023, 20:05

                                      Whatever it is, laughter is out of place. he was flipping off the victim's family as well.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 20:22 last edited by
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                                      @Mik said in Murder of a bicyclist.:

                                      Whatever it is, laughter is out of place. he was flipping off the victim's family as well.

                                      I was one of three defendants during a malpractice trial in 1996. Our attorney said, at the beginning of the trial, that although it's scary AF in the beginning, after a few days, you'll start to see and appreciate the "game" of it all. He was right.

                                      But...

                                      There was never, ever, that kind of behavior, either by plaintiff's attorney or ours.

                                      Yeah, a picture can be taken out of context. But, they're both laughing, and I'd like to know what was so funny.

                                      By the way, yesterday, I read that this was not the first hit and run that these two miscreants did that day. The other victim sustained minor injuries.

                                      Lock them up. In a small cage. Forever. This is pure evil and needs to be removed from society. Forever.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 26 Oct 2023, 20:35 last edited by
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                                        Agreed.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          kluurs
                                          wrote on 27 Oct 2023, 22:28 last edited by
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                                          Yup - the world has plenty of people - a few fewer sociopaths on the outside isn't a bad thing. Back when the Soviet Union dissolved, columnist Mike Royko recommended saving money by shipping people like that to Soviet gullags as it would be cheaper to house them there - and if they escaped, they only had to walk through a few hundred miles of waist deep snow to freedom - which seemed unlikely.

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