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The digital tip jar

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    Putting on my Ax hat. 555

    "Do you mean that many waiters are committing tax fraud by not accurately reporting their earnings?"

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #168

    @taiwan_girl said in The digital tip jar:

    Putting on my Ax hat. 555

    "Do you mean that many waiters are committing tax fraud by not accurately reporting their earnings?"

    You mean you don't know? I thought you were the fucking expert here?

    Please love yourself.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The digital tip jar:

      You then proceeded to complain about a $20 tip for a $200 moving charge.

      I don't remember the exact conversation, but we paid a lot more than a $20 tip to our movers. More like 10-15 times that much.

      And to be honest, I don't think that's reasonable. I'd have much rather had it baked into the price. Apart from anything else, there's the uncertainty of how much is reasonable.

      And it's not that you take it seriously that I find funny, it's that you get so freaking mad with people who disagree with you.

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      #169

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

      And it's not that you take it seriously that I find funny, it's that you get so freaking mad with people who disagree with you.

      I said it before in this thread and I'll explain it again: Disagree all you want about tipping. There are broken aspects to it that are certainly problematic.

      The difference is, I'm not suggesting England has it wrong by not following a tipping model. But you think you know better than the country you moved to.

      You're so quick to criticize silly Americans for expecting the world to conform to their sensibilities and here you are doing exactly the same thing.

      Please love yourself.

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        #170

        I bet he likes cold beer better by now.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #171

          I think the imperial system is stupid too but I’m too polite to say anything

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            I think the imperial system is stupid too but I’m too polite to say anything

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            #172

            @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

            I think the imperial system is stupid too but I’m too polite to say anything

            That's our friend @Doctor-Phibes ! He's got modesty by the gallon.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

              I think the imperial system is stupid too but I’m too polite to say anything

              That's our friend @Doctor-Phibes ! He's got modesty by the gallon.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #173

              @George-K said in The digital tip jar:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

              I think the imperial system is stupid too but I’m too polite to say anything

              That's our friend @Doctor-Phibes ! He's got modesty by the gallon.

              You wouldn't be so dismissive of my opinion if you'd ever had to make your living using the metric system.

              Are you saying that I wasted my entire life using Celsius, refusing to bow to the inevitability of the frankly arcane Fahrenheit system?

              I'll tell you this, American weather forecasters are not particularly well thought of when it comes to temperature measurement!

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @George-K said in The digital tip jar:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

                I think the imperial system is stupid too but I’m too polite to say anything

                That's our friend @Doctor-Phibes ! He's got modesty by the gallon.

                You wouldn't be so dismissive of my opinion if you'd ever had to make your living using the metric system.

                Are you saying that I wasted my entire life using Celsius, refusing to bow to the inevitability of the frankly arcane Fahrenheit system?

                I'll tell you this, American weather forecasters are not particularly well thought of when it comes to temperature measurement!

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

                You wouldn't be so dismissive of my opinion if you'd ever had to make your living using the metric system.

                Ahem...I did. I never gave someone a quart of fluids or prescribed a grain of oral medication.

                Even when I was an intern, I would write, "Pt. may have spirits fermenti (vodka) 30 ml po at hs, prn. MR x 2."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Yup. Medicine is entirely metric.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    #176

                    I used the metric system when measuring… ahhh certain things…. Made me feel better about myself…

                    The Brad

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

                      And it's not that you take it seriously that I find funny, it's that you get so freaking mad with people who disagree with you.

                      I said it before in this thread and I'll explain it again: Disagree all you want about tipping. There are broken aspects to it that are certainly problematic.

                      The difference is, I'm not suggesting England has it wrong by not following a tipping model. But you think you know better than the country you moved to.

                      You're so quick to criticize silly Americans for expecting the world to conform to their sensibilities and here you are doing exactly the same thing.

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                      Klaus
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                      #177

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The digital tip jar:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

                      And it's not that you take it seriously that I find funny, it's that you get so freaking mad with people who disagree with you.

                      I said it before in this thread and I'll explain it again: Disagree all you want about tipping. There are broken aspects to it that are certainly problematic.

                      The difference is, I'm not suggesting England has it wrong by not following a tipping model. But you think you know better than the country you moved to.

                      You're so quick to criticize silly Americans for expecting the world to conform to their sensibilities and here you are doing exactly the same thing.

                      When we travel around the world, we all like or dislike aspects of how other countries do things, or wish they would do things we find annoying differently.

                      It would be completely OK if you would suggest that England has it wrong by not following a tipping model.

                      And it is completely OK for TG to suggest that the US has it wrong by emphasizing tipping so much.

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The digital tip jar:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

                        And it's not that you take it seriously that I find funny, it's that you get so freaking mad with people who disagree with you.

                        I said it before in this thread and I'll explain it again: Disagree all you want about tipping. There are broken aspects to it that are certainly problematic.

                        The difference is, I'm not suggesting England has it wrong by not following a tipping model. But you think you know better than the country you moved to.

                        You're so quick to criticize silly Americans for expecting the world to conform to their sensibilities and here you are doing exactly the same thing.

                        When we travel around the world, we all like or dislike aspects of how other countries do things, or wish they would do things we find annoying differently.

                        It would be completely OK if you would suggest that England has it wrong by not following a tipping model.

                        And it is completely OK for TG to suggest that the US has it wrong by emphasizing tipping so much.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #178

                        @Klaus said in The digital tip jar:

                        When we travel around the world, we all like or dislike aspects of how other countries do things, or wish they would do things we find annoying differently.

                        It would be completely OK if you would suggest that England has it wrong by not following a tipping model.

                        And it is completely OK for TG to suggest that the US has it wrong by emphasizing tipping so much.

                        I do kind of understand Aqua's point. It is rather rude for immigrants such as myself to point out things we don't really like about our new country.

                        However, from my own experience when getting together with groups of immigrants in more than country, including England, pretty much every single immigrant to any country does it 🙂

                        Generally, it's in a light-hearted manner, which was my initial intent with this particular topic. I honestly don't feel particularly strongly about tipping, and I don't suppose that TG does, either.

                        Clearly it's a hot-button for Aqua, and I'll shut up about it now.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Klaus said in The digital tip jar:

                          When we travel around the world, we all like or dislike aspects of how other countries do things, or wish they would do things we find annoying differently.

                          It would be completely OK if you would suggest that England has it wrong by not following a tipping model.

                          And it is completely OK for TG to suggest that the US has it wrong by emphasizing tipping so much.

                          I do kind of understand Aqua's point. It is rather rude for immigrants such as myself to point out things we don't really like about our new country.

                          However, from my own experience when getting together with groups of immigrants in more than country, including England, pretty much every single immigrant to any country does it 🙂

                          Generally, it's in a light-hearted manner, which was my initial intent with this particular topic. I honestly don't feel particularly strongly about tipping, and I don't suppose that TG does, either.

                          Clearly it's a hot-button for Aqua, and I'll shut up about it now.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

                          @Klaus said in The digital tip jar:

                          When we travel around the world, we all like or dislike aspects of how other countries do things, or wish they would do things we find annoying differently.

                          It would be completely OK if you would suggest that England has it wrong by not following a tipping model.

                          And it is completely OK for TG to suggest that the US has it wrong by emphasizing tipping so much.

                          I do kind of understand Aqua's point. It is rather rude for immigrants such as myself to point out things we don't really like about our new country.

                          However, from my own experience when getting together with groups of immigrants in more than country, including England, pretty much every single immigrant to any country does it 🙂

                          Well, yeah. Did it myself and I think that's only natural.

                          Waaaaay back, this discussion didn't start out that way. I explained very clearly why the tipping model works here, based on 10 years of my life relying on it.

                          What's annoying is hearing "no it isn't, you're quite wrong about that!" from someone who doesn't even live here, and "economically it'd be better for everybody!" from someone who has to ask you how that economy works.

                          It's ignorant.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            Here’s something economic that I think works better in Europe than here… I love that the VAT and taxes are built into the price… If the tag says €20, then I pay €20, not €21.20.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Here’s something economic that I think works better in Europe than here… I love that the VAT and taxes are built into the price… If the tag says €20, then I pay €20, not €21.20.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in The digital tip jar:

                              Here’s something economic that I think works better in Europe than here… I love that the VAT and taxes are built into the price… If the tag says €20, then I pay €20, not €21.20.

                              QFT!

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Oh absolutely. I would be absolutely fine with Congress making that law. The price you see is the price you pay, period.

                                And the tipping model works, it has just been vastly expanded in the last few years. Unfortunately I think it hurts traditionally tipped jobs (food delivery, sit-down restaurant, bar, etc) as folks are pushing back on the tipping culture every business has seemed to embrace.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #183

                                  Another thing they should change - Americans should drive on the left hand side of the road, as God and nature intended.

                                  Obviously, this would be a very difficult thing to accomplish overnight. It might be better to do it only for some States and see how well it worked. Or maybe just by implementing it at the weekend for a trial period.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    Oh absolutely. I would be absolutely fine with Congress making that law. The price you see is the price you pay, period.

                                    And the tipping model works, it has just been vastly expanded in the last few years. Unfortunately I think it hurts traditionally tipped jobs (food delivery, sit-down restaurant, bar, etc) as folks are pushing back on the tipping culture every business has seemed to embrace.

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                                    @89th said in The digital tip jar:

                                    Oh absolutely. I would be absolutely fine with Congress making that law. The price you see is the price you pay, period.

                                    The problem is that sales taxes in various locations differ. Hell, even in Illinois, it differs from county to county.

                                    Not gonna be able to legislate that in Congress.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      Another thing they should change - Americans should drive on the left hand side of the road, as God and nature intended.

                                      Obviously, this would be a very difficult thing to accomplish overnight. It might be better to do it only for some States and see how well it worked. Or maybe just by implementing it at the weekend for a trial period.

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The digital tip jar:

                                      Another thing they should change - Americans should drive on the left hand side of the road, as God and nature intended.

                                      Sez the guy who insists that the Imperial system is outdated and a relic.

                                      5bbaa266ae84ee7f101fd143-1200-2298140631.jpeg

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #186

                                        I'd be fascinated to see a scientific explanation for why driving on the right hand side is better, other than "We really want to be like the French".

                                        Because Fahrenheit vs. Celsius and inches vs. centimeters is really easy to justify.

                                        Those of us who continue to carry a sword to work, would argue that there benefits to driving on the left.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          They did a study awhile back on left vs right drive bicycles. Basically it's a wash for all but very specific applications, in which case left drive is almost always better.

                                          And yet...

                                          Please love yourself.

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