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@Doctor-Phibes said in The quiet part out loud:
We could do with a bit more diversity here, IMHO.
Sorry if the D-word triggers anyone, but when Jon's considered to be a raging Leftist, it's just possible we might have slipped a little to the right.
Jon proudly self selects as a Trump hater at a level where acceptance of support for the man or a vote for the man would be absurd. That’s the raging fringe he inhabits. Not an ideological leftist fringe.
Shouldn’t call it fringe though. It’s perfectly mainstream. Too bad it’s incompatible with any pretense of mutual respect for the out-group.
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@Horace said in The quiet part out loud:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The quiet part out loud:
We could do with a bit more diversity here, IMHO.
Sorry if the D-word triggers anyone, but when Jon's considered to be a raging Leftist, it's just possible we might have slipped a little to the right.
Jon proudly self selects as a Trump hater at a level where acceptance of support for the man or a vote for the man would be absurd. That’s the raging fringe he inhabits. Not an ideological leftist fringe.
Shouldn’t call it fringe though. It’s perfectly mainstream. Too bad it’s incompatible with any pretense of mutual respect for the out-group.
I think Trump is an unmitigated twat, too. And not, it has to be said without good reason. I don't really understand why people make excuses for him. I kind of understand why he gets votes, but not enthusiastic ones. I can understand voting for the guy instead of Hillary, and even Biden. But saying he was a great President? Fucking hell, you'd have to be a bit tapped to believe that.
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Schmidt is an ass. He gets Burns on there and just goes on and on, then asks Burns a question and tells him there is no answer.
The thing that strikes me is that what they accuse the GOP of, sycophancy and thirst for power, applies at least equally to the Democrats.
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He points the unique thing about all of this. The cowardice. Reminds me of this place. After just being chastised by the patriarchy for not being very endearing in efforts to make friends with my ad hominem Neanderthal mention. Of course I fully expected it and for the most part have refrained from any sort of schoolyard bullying or name calling, Something that others here made daily ritual of and were never called to the principal’s office for, that continues even today after he has passed, with his number one toady and sycophant. But that has always been par for the course here. The unequal deliverance of Justice that you all have made your mantra in the real world of government and politics. Kind of hypocrital, no? It’s the main reason I left here as many others before me. I only came back to see if there were any converts to sanity with all the felony indictments. I said a couple years back that he would be in prison one day, and the saddest thing of all was you all considering that group of 8 the other night and that 6 of the 8 said they would still back him after any felony convictions for crimes of a traitorous nature. What has this country come to.? It is despicable.
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Anybody who thinks Trump hatred takes any courage, is probably not acquainted with courage. You can call it righteous, sure, that's actually reasonably arguable. But joining in with the hatreds of everybody around you, I mean except when slumming it in internet fora, is typically not an act of courage. It does allow people who revel in hating and sneering at the out-group, to show those cards, even if they don't know they're showing them.
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NS of course wishes to lump all of us together as one big Larry, all in lockstep. Meaning, of course, he doesn't read enough to determine who among us supports Trump and who does not. Me? I don't want him to be the nominee, but I didn't in 2016 either and did not vote for him. On the other hand, there is no question that the laws are being applied unequally for political reasons, and one cannot deny the Democrats' craven efforts at destroying him from day one. So, show me where the cowardice lies there. Is it because I do not call for his crucifixion? If that is what you wish to call cowardice then have at it.
It is not wise to argue with a fool. Listeners can't tell which is which. This applies to swamp creatures as well.
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@Horace said in The quiet part out loud:
Anybody who thinks Trump hatred takes any courage, is probably not acquainted with courage. You can call it righteous, sure, that's actually reasonably arguable. But joining in with the hatreds of everybody around you, I mean except when slumming it in internet fora, is typically not an act of courage. It does allow people who revel in hating and sneering at the out-group, to show those cards, even if they don't know they're showing them.
Au contriere my dear friend from the golden state. Like you, i am surrounded by friends and aquaintances of a polar opposite political belief. I used to just keep my mouth shut as they spouted out loud and on social media daily in deference to maintaining said friendships and aquaintances. No longer. I am now handing it right back to them in a most vocal and intelligent retort as things have gotten way out of hand to the point that party over country is what they prefer. That takes a bit of courage and much more importantly, alot of patriotism for which i hold in spades over the likes of you. I love this country, our country, and will not silently stand by and watch this 250 year experiment disappear down a gold plated toilet bowl with plenty of helping water pressure. 39 years direct service to our federal government including 4 years active duty. Hardly a thing someone would spend 39 years of their
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@NobodySock said in The quiet part out loud:
@Horace said in The quiet part out loud:
Anybody who thinks Trump hatred takes any courage, is probably not acquainted with courage. You can call it righteous, sure, that's actually reasonably arguable. But joining in with the hatreds of everybody around you, I mean except when slumming it in internet fora, is typically not an act of courage. It does allow people who revel in hating and sneering at the out-group, to show those cards, even if they don't know they're showing them.
Au contriere my dear friend from the golden state. Like you, i am surrounded by friends and aquaintances of a polar opposite political belief. I used to just keep my mouth shut as they spouted out loud and on social media daily in deference to maintaining said friendships and aquaintances. No longer. I am now handing it right back to them in a most vocal and intelligent retort as things have gotten way out of hand to the point that party over country is what they prefer. That takes a bit of courage and much more importantly, alot of patriotism for which i hold in spades over the likes of you. I love this country, our country, and will not silently stand by and watch this 250 year experiment disappear down a gold plated toilet bowl with plenty of helping water pressure. 39 years direct service to our federal government including 4 years active duty. Hardly a thing someone would spend 39 years of their
life for if they hated America.You live in CA and you're surrounded by vocal Trump supporters? That surprises me. Do you work in the Trump campaign?
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@NobodySock said in The quiet part out loud:
@Horace said in The quiet part out loud:
Anybody who thinks Trump hatred takes any courage, is probably not acquainted with courage. You can call it righteous, sure, that's actually reasonably arguable. But joining in with the hatreds of everybody around you, I mean except when slumming it in internet fora, is typically not an act of courage. It does allow people who revel in hating and sneering at the out-group, to show those cards, even if they don't know they're showing them.
Au contriere my dear friend from the golden state. Like you, i am surrounded by friends and aquaintances of a polar opposite political belief. I used to just keep my mouth shut as they spouted out loud and on social media daily in deference to maintaining said friendships and aquaintances. No longer. I am now handing it right back to them in a most vocal and intelligent retort as things have gotten way out of hand to the point that party over country is what they prefer. That takes a bit of courage and much more importantly, alot of patriotism for which i hold in spades over the likes of you. I love this country, our country, and will not silently stand by and watch this 250 year experiment disappear down a gold plated toilet bowl with plenty of helping water pressure. 39 years direct service to our federal government including 4 years active duty. Hardly a thing someone would spend 39 years of their
life for if they hated America.We appreciate your service. I'm sure you had the toilets so clean, that even the Virgin Mary would be glad to take a dump in them.
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NS seems to be conflating Federal Government with the country. The Federal Government is not the country, and it is quite possible and increasingly likely that somebody could spend 4 decades in the Federal Government and hate the country.
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Now, if you want to debate specific issues and positions, we will be happy to do so, and civilly for the most part.
If, instead, you choose to just drop video bombs decrying the evil and foulness of the other side, then you are going to get bitch-slapped hard enough that Larry’s jabs will look like a lover’s caresse.
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@NobodySock said in The quiet part out loud:
The cowardice. Reminds me of this place.
Oh! You poor dear.
Nobody comes here for any reason other than to adore you.
I believe I speak for all here when I say we sincerely apologize for any misunderstanding.
We all come here to worship you, please give us a chance.
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@Horace said in The quiet part out loud:
@NobodySock said in The quiet part out loud:
@Horace said in The quiet part out loud:
Anybody who thinks Trump hatred takes any courage, is probably not acquainted with courage. You can call it righteous, sure, that's actually reasonably arguable. But joining in with the hatreds of everybody around you, I mean except when slumming it in internet fora, is typically not an act of courage. It does allow people who revel in hating and sneering at the out-group, to show those cards, even if they don't know they're showing them.
Au contriere my dear friend from the golden state. Like you, i am surrounded by friends and aquaintances of a polar opposite political belief. I used to just keep my mouth shut as they spouted out loud and on social media daily in deference to maintaining said friendships and aquaintances. No longer. I am now handing it right back to them in a most vocal and intelligent retort as things have gotten way out of hand to the point that party over country is what they prefer. That takes a bit of courage and much more importantly, alot of patriotism for which i hold in spades over the likes of you. I love this country, our country, and will not silently stand by and watch this 250 year experiment disappear down a gold plated toilet bowl with plenty of helping water pressure. 39 years direct service to our federal government including 4 years active duty. Hardly a thing someone would spend 39 years of their
life for if they hated America.You live in CA and you're surrounded by vocal Trump supporters? That surprises me. Do you work in the Trump campaign?
Yes. You know that California is not just one big bastion of liberalism. There are huge pockets of conservative base throughout the state for which I am in the middle of one of them. Farmers, and foothill dwellers make up a big swath, but there are plenty more from all walks of life. -
@NobodySock said in The quiet part out loud:
@xenon said in The quiet part out loud:
That’s a pretty hilarious caricature of what a low-information leftist may think!
Not just them, high information leftists as well! Xenon, you’re losing your liberalism just to conform with the neanderthal base here. I am truly disappointed in you.
I’ve never been on a team, NS. I think Trump is a dumpster fire, but I’d still rather be neighbors with a Trump supporter than an all-out wokist.
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@NobodySock said in The quiet part out loud:
for the most part have refrained from any sort of schoolyard bullying or name calling
You have 20 posts here. 20% of them contain name-calling.
" Don’t you feel ashamed? Your brainwashing"
Some of us can disagree without being disagreeable. There are many here who lean left (contrary to your perception) with whom I disagree and we have never exchanged a harsh word. Life it too short to be angry all the time, even 1/5 of the time.
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