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  • bachophileB bachophile

    So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….

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    Copper
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    #126

    @bachophile said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

    what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that

    Skip to 6:50 for the answer

    1950s movie on the beach

    Link to video

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      #127

      I always imagined there were people rolling their eyes at the hope for a successful rescue. I didn't know some had more information than others, but I don't think more information was ever necessary to know they were irretrievably gone. There was never a plausible explanation other than catastrophe, and there was never a plausible hope of rescuing them from 12k down.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Totally. I thought...if anything...maybe there was a slight chance they were bobbing up and down on the surface of the water somewhere with no way to communicate. Maybe they still are. 😉

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          What hasn't been covered is the fact that the Titanic tomb is like King Tut's tomb.
          Woe be to those that would transgress the boundaries.
          Scary. No way I would get into any sub going down to try to find the missing pancake sub. Certain death. I know of these things. For example, whatever you do, DO NOT look behind you right now.

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          • RainmanR Rainman

            What hasn't been covered is the fact that the Titanic tomb is like King Tut's tomb.
            Woe be to those that would transgress the boundaries.
            Scary. No way I would get into any sub going down to try to find the missing pancake sub. Certain death. I know of these things. For example, whatever you do, DO NOT look behind you right now.

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            #130

            @Rainman said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

            For example, whatever you do, DO NOT look behind you right now.

            Damn. I couldn't help myself, and my boss was stood right there while I was reading your nonsense.

            I was only joking

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              #131

              Cool site.

              Also, what an alien world...

              https://neal.fun/deep-sea/

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #132

                All of this talk about skipped safety precautions and such, but yet Nargeolot was perhaps the most experienced submariner in the world, particularly deep oceanic trench subs. He has made that trek numerous times on different vessels. You would think that if something looked obviously unsafe as many have stated that he would have said no to the trip…

                The Brad

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                  The CEO’s wife:

                  Rush married Wendy Weil in 1986.[22] The couple had two children.[23] Wendy Weil Rush is a great-great-granddaughter of Isidor and Ida Blun Straus, both of whom died in the sinking of the Titanic.[22] She is the director of communications at OceanGate.[22]

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    All of this talk about skipped safety precautions and such, but yet Nargeolot was perhaps the most experienced submariner in the world, particularly deep oceanic trench subs. He has made that trek numerous times on different vessels. You would think that if something looked obviously unsafe as many have stated that he would have said no to the trip…

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                    All of this talk about skipped safety precautions and such, but yet Nargeolot was perhaps the most experienced submariner in the world, particularly deep oceanic trench subs. He has made that trek numerous times on different vessels. You would think that if something looked obviously unsafe as many have stated that he would have said no to the trip…

                    Maybe there's a difference between people who use submarines and people who design and build submarines, and also between them and the people who test the safety of submarines. I know that's definitely the case in my work. It's why we have 3rd party certification.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                      All of this talk about skipped safety precautions and such, but yet Nargeolot was perhaps the most experienced submariner in the world, particularly deep oceanic trench subs. He has made that trek numerous times on different vessels. You would think that if something looked obviously unsafe as many have stated that he would have said no to the trip…

                      Maybe there's a difference between people who use submarines and people who design and build submarines, and also between them and the people who test the safety of submarines. I know that's definitely the case in my work. It's why we have 3rd party certification.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                      All of this talk about skipped safety precautions and such, but yet Nargeolot was perhaps the most experienced submariner in the world, particularly deep oceanic trench subs. He has made that trek numerous times on different vessels. You would think that if something looked obviously unsafe as many have stated that he would have said no to the trip…

                      Maybe there's a difference between people who use submarines and people who design and build submarines, and also between them and the people who test the safety of submarines. I know that's definitely the case in my work. It's why we have 3rd party certification.

                      No doubt, but many of these stories about safety problems are coming from even more uninformed sources. David Pogue is a great and brilliant technology writer for the Times, and his articles about the wonders of the Disklavier and Yamaha Avant Grand pianos are spot on, but I think Nargeolet would be a better source. There’s the documentary maker that also talked about how shady the safety looked… I think the French Submariner would have a better take than a videographer…

                      It sounds like the issue wasn’t the ballast tanks or Nintendo controllers… Those wouldn’t have caused an implosion. It sounds like repeated stress on the titanium/carbon fiber mix… which should have been inspected and tested more often, but the design should also be recognized to have worked for hundreds of dives…

                      The Brad

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                        The Alvin, which was built in 1964, has made a few thousand dives and is capable of diving much deeper than Titan. I listened to an interview with a physicist who works with carbon fiber who said it doesn't do as well with compression as one might desire for a submersible - especially with repeated use.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          All of this talk about skipped safety precautions and such, but yet Nargeolot was perhaps the most experienced submariner in the world, particularly deep oceanic trench subs. He has made that trek numerous times on different vessels. You would think that if something looked obviously unsafe as many have stated that he would have said no to the trip…

                          Maybe there's a difference between people who use submarines and people who design and build submarines, and also between them and the people who test the safety of submarines. I know that's definitely the case in my work. It's why we have 3rd party certification.

                          No doubt, but many of these stories about safety problems are coming from even more uninformed sources. David Pogue is a great and brilliant technology writer for the Times, and his articles about the wonders of the Disklavier and Yamaha Avant Grand pianos are spot on, but I think Nargeolet would be a better source. There’s the documentary maker that also talked about how shady the safety looked… I think the French Submariner would have a better take than a videographer…

                          It sounds like the issue wasn’t the ballast tanks or Nintendo controllers… Those wouldn’t have caused an implosion. It sounds like repeated stress on the titanium/carbon fiber mix… which should have been inspected and tested more often, but the design should also be recognized to have worked for hundreds of dives…

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          All of this talk about skipped safety precautions and such, but yet Nargeolot was perhaps the most experienced submariner in the world, particularly deep oceanic trench subs. He has made that trek numerous times on different vessels. You would think that if something looked obviously unsafe as many have stated that he would have said no to the trip…

                          Maybe there's a difference between people who use submarines and people who design and build submarines, and also between them and the people who test the safety of submarines. I know that's definitely the case in my work. It's why we have 3rd party certification.

                          No doubt, but many of these stories about safety problems are coming from even more uninformed sources. David Pogue is a great and brilliant technology writer for the Times, and his articles about the wonders of the Disklavier and Yamaha Avant Grand pianos are spot on, but I think Nargeolet would be a better source. There’s the documentary maker that also talked about how shady the safety looked… I think the French Submariner would have a better take than a videographer…

                          It sounds like the issue wasn’t the ballast tanks or Nintendo controllers… Those wouldn’t have caused an implosion. It sounds like repeated stress on the titanium/carbon fiber mix… which should have been inspected and tested more often, but the design should also be recognized to have worked for hundreds of dives…

                          Assessing the design as unsafe is one thing. I have no expertise at all in that area, so I really can't comment.

                          Not having it follow standard safety protocols is another thing. I do know about that, and this guy didn't follow the protocols. He basically invented his own way to assess the safety and ignored what he considered boring, outdated, restrictive practices.

                          William Kohnen, the chairman of the Manned Underwater Vehicles Committee, said that the rules regarding submersibles have been written in blood. And Oceangate ignored them.

                          I was only joking

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                            George K
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                            #138

                            "The ocean instapot event."

                            Link to video

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              #139

                              Wow...

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                Wow...

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                #140

                                @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                Wow...

                                Sure would be nice to have some verification that the emails were real. Based on the asshat that posted them? I have some doubts.

                                The Brad

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                                  George K
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                                  #141

                                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65998914

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65998914

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65998914

                                    Ok. The Twitter guy is still an asshole.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65998914

                                      Ok. The Twitter guy is still an asshole.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      Ok. The Twitter guy is still an asshole.

                                      Could well be.

                                      Don't know anything about him.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65998914

                                        Ok. The Twitter guy is still an asshole.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #144

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65998914

                                        Ok. The Twitter guy is still an asshole.

                                        So was the submarine guy, and the Twitter guy didn't kill anybody.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          https://people.com/sons-warning-titan-sub-safety-saved-him-father-7552962

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