Last night in Chicago
-
Any idea what set it off?
@LuFins-Dad said in Last night in Chicago:
Any idea what set it off?
Nothing specific. Just the desire for mayhem.
-
Any idea what set it off?
@LuFins-Dad said in Last night in Chicago:
Any idea what set it off?
I assume it was China, or Mr. Biden, but I repeat myself.
-
@LuFins-Dad said in Last night in Chicago:
Any idea what set it off?
Nothing specific. Just the desire for mayhem.
@George-K said in Last night in Chicago:
@LuFins-Dad said in Last night in Chicago:
Any idea what set it off?
Nothing specific. Just the desire for mayhem.
Fox 32 reported that the chaos appeared to be another "Teen Takeover" of the city that was planned on social media, noting that a similar scene played out in Chicago last year.
I can find no mention of this on CNN, not on the web home page
Fox gives it the top of the front page
wapo and nyt also silent
wow
-
Chicago is a very beautiful city, but things like this will keep me away.
-
Chicago is a very beautiful city, but things like this will keep me away.
@taiwan_girl said in Last night in Chicago:
Chicago is a very beautiful city, but things like this will keep me away.
Yes. I won't go downtown unless absolutely necessary (Dr. appt) and via a relatively safe route.
As I've mentioned, I thought nothing of walking from Michigan Avenue to Union Station (about a mile) at 10 PM after a CSO concert. No way I'd do that now.
Of note, when I was growing up, the population of Chicago was about 3.3 million. Last I looked, it's about 2.7 million. There are many reasons for that, but this will continue the trend.
-
@taiwan_girl said in Last night in Chicago:
Chicago is a very beautiful city, but things like this will keep me away.
Yes. I won't go downtown unless absolutely necessary (Dr. appt) and via a relatively safe route.
As I've mentioned, I thought nothing of walking from Michigan Avenue to Union Station (about a mile) at 10 PM after a CSO concert. No way I'd do that now.
Of note, when I was growing up, the population of Chicago was about 3.3 million. Last I looked, it's about 2.7 million. There are many reasons for that, but this will continue the trend.
@George-K said in Last night in Chicago:
@taiwan_girl said in Last night in Chicago:
Chicago is a very beautiful city, but things like this will keep me away.
Yes. I won't go downtown unless absolutely necessary (Dr. appt) and via a relatively safe route.
As I've mentioned, I thought nothing of walking from Michigan Avenue to Union Station (about a mile) at 10 PM after a CSO concert. No way I'd do that now.
Of note, when I was growing up, the population of Chicago was about 3.3 million. Last I looked, it's about 2.7 million. There are many reasons for that, but this will continue the trend.
Very sad.
Similar to the closure of the Walmart store. The people who are most effected by this are blind when it comes to understanding the reasons.
Tourism goes down? Oh, it cant be because people are causing destruction on the main tourist street.
-
L.A. Riots. Both the one in the 1960's and the later one killed off multiple businesses badly needed by the residents doing the rioting.
@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
L.A. Riots. Both the one in the 1960's and the later one killed off multiple businesses badly needed by the residents doing the rioting.
Yes. The difference is that those were, supposedly, triggered by events (MLK assassination, Rodney King). These, in Chicago, could be called "riots," I suppose, but it was a bunch of yoots with nothing better to do on a weekend night. So, let's jump on some cars and bust up some stores.
-
He may end up worse than Lighfoot. I suspect if you looked at the lives of those involved, first - you would see they get plenty to eat. Secondly, you would see that it was done because they could and thought it would be fun.
It won't stop until you gas them, rubber bullet, them and possibly put a few in the ground.
-
He may end up worse than Lighfoot. I suspect if you looked at the lives of those involved, first - you would see they get plenty to eat. Secondly, you would see that it was done because they could and thought it would be fun.
It won't stop until you gas them, rubber bullet, them and possibly put a few in the ground.
-
L.A. Riots. Both the one in the 1960's and the later one killed off multiple businesses badly needed by the residents doing the rioting.
@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
L.A. Riots. Both the one in the 1960's and the later one killed off multiple businesses badly needed by the residents doing the rioting.
Exactly. Crazy!!!
-
He may end up worse than Lighfoot. I suspect if you looked at the lives of those involved, first - you would see they get plenty to eat. Secondly, you would see that it was done because they could and thought it would be fun.
It won't stop until you gas them, rubber bullet, them and possibly put a few in the ground.
@Mik said in Last night in Chicago:
He may end up worse than Lighfoot. I suspect if you looked at the lives of those involved, first - you would see they get plenty to eat. Secondly, you would see that it was done because they could and thought it would be fun.
It won't stop until you gas them, rubber bullet, them and possibly put a few in the ground.
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime, especially in certain areas. Zero tolerance for shop-lifting, curfew violations, etc. Arraignment and bail done swiftly, no bail for violent acts. Any parole violations go directly to jail until further review by parole board. Violent crimes will be tried within 180 days of arraignment.
Not enough prison room? Tents work well until quonset huts can be erected. Those buildings are still made by multiple manufacturers and go up screamingly fast...And you can make them long enough for barracks.
Crime rates in the city will drop like a rock. You'll still have crime, but it won't be as much by repeat offenders.
-
@Mik said in Last night in Chicago:
He may end up worse than Lighfoot. I suspect if you looked at the lives of those involved, first - you would see they get plenty to eat. Secondly, you would see that it was done because they could and thought it would be fun.
It won't stop until you gas them, rubber bullet, them and possibly put a few in the ground.
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime, especially in certain areas. Zero tolerance for shop-lifting, curfew violations, etc. Arraignment and bail done swiftly, no bail for violent acts. Any parole violations go directly to jail until further review by parole board. Violent crimes will be tried within 180 days of arraignment.
Not enough prison room? Tents work well until quonset huts can be erected. Those buildings are still made by multiple manufacturers and go up screamingly fast...And you can make them long enough for barracks.
Crime rates in the city will drop like a rock. You'll still have crime, but it won't be as much by repeat offenders.
@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,
FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.
repeat offenders.
I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.
Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.
The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.
-
The balance will turn. The police have been "tamed". The kids know it. Better to have a 100 rioters loot and destroy property than to have one cop injure one teen. Once things go too far, people will want a bit more of a police state where it is understood that order will be preserved - and the price will be occasional police overreaction. Perfection is not to be expected of humans.
Sadly, we live in a time when no person in their right mind would want to be a police officer - all downside. That's part of the challenge for Chicago. How do you identify good people foolish enough to want the job?
-
@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,
FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.
repeat offenders.
I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.
Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.
The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.
@George-K said in Last night in Chicago:
@Jolly said in Last night in Chicago:
First, create a temporary holding area. Then, turn the cops loose and empower them to arrest anything that looks like a crime,
FFS, man. In Chicago, cops can't even chase a suspect.
repeat offenders.
I read a stat over the weekend that of the thousands of shoplifting incidents in NYC, most were committed by fewer than 400 individuals.
Nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City last year involved just 327 people, the police said. Collectively, they were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times, Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said. Some engage in shoplifting as a trade, while others are driven by addiction or mental illness; the police did not identify the 327 people in the analysis.
The victims are also concentrated: 18 department stores and seven chain pharmacy locations accounted for 20 percent of all complaints, the police said.
In Jefferson Parish, they housed inmates in tents. They had problems, but not because of the tents. I talked with the guy sent by the state to straighten out the behavior problems...He narrowed it down to two things: lack of exercise and bad food. They put the inmates on voluntary work details...Those gave the guys work, sunshine and fresh air, along with an occasional big treat. Once or twice a month, work details would get fast food burgers or if they were especially good, maybe Popeye's. Inmates wanted to work.
For the prison food, they upped quantity and quality. They brought in a couple of Angola staff along with a couple of trustee cooks to work with the parish cooks. Gumbo, pork jambalaya, smoked bologna and white beans, spaghetti with hamburger or chicken sauce, pancakes, biscuits & gravy. A truck farm was established and meals were supplemented with fresh produce in season. Inmates were fed pretty well in the morning, a light lunch and heavy in the evening.
A tired inmate with a full belly, causes less trouble.
-
@George-K said in Last night in Chicago:
The Mayor-elect:
Yeah, you can eat those Gucci purses and shoes.
Ben Shapiro comments:
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- HL Mencken
The news anchor who kept saying "condoning" instead of "condemning"...
But yes, it's not desperation "to eat" if you are able to wear those shoes and clothes. I do not mean this at all, but... people need a good reminder of what real tough times, starvation, the great depression,... now if you get someone's order wrong at McDonald's there is an uproar, fight, and a viral video.
Chicago needs a radical change, it seems, like the Rudy/NYC in the 90s.