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Hey vinyl people.

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  • markM mark

    @Copper None of my albums skip.

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    @mark said in Hey vinyl people.:

    @Copper None of my albums skip...

    ...yet.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      What is good software if you transfer a record to a Mac?

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        What is good software if you transfer a record to a Mac?

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        @taiwan_girl why bother?

        You're probably going to lose a lot of fidelity by going through the process of hooking a turntable to a computer.

        You're probably better off by relying on a steaming service that will have your music, and probably at a higher fidelity.

        At my age, CDs aren't even worth the effort any more.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @taiwan_girl why bother?

          You're probably going to lose a lot of fidelity by going through the process of hooking a turntable to a computer.

          You're probably better off by relying on a steaming service that will have your music, and probably at a higher fidelity.

          At my age, CDs aren't even worth the effort any more.

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          @George-K Ah, you are probably correct.

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          • George KG George K

            @mark said in Hey vinyl people.:

            @Copper None of my albums skip...

            ...yet.

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            @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

            @mark said in Hey vinyl people.:

            @Copper None of my albums skip...

            ...yet.

            What do you think will cause them to skip? Age? NOPE! I have an original pressing of Miles Davis Kind of Blue from the 50s that doesn't skip. I have many original pressing from the 60s and 70s that don't skip either.

            Take care of them, and they will not skip.

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              Good advice @mark and others. I plan on getting this set up for my home office one day and will reference this thread in the future.

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Regarding speakers, right now I'm looking at getting a pair of speakers for my desktop computer. @George-K knows I'm a fan of the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers, but I guess their biggest drawback these days is lack of wireless/bluetooth connectivity.

                  Why am I posting in this thread? I guess bottom line, if I were to get turntable in the future, is there a noticeable audio quality degradation by listening to records via bluetooth connected speakers vs connected/passive speakers?

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Regarding speakers, right now I'm looking at getting a pair of speakers for my desktop computer. @George-K knows I'm a fan of the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers, but I guess their biggest drawback these days is lack of wireless/bluetooth connectivity.

                    Why am I posting in this thread? I guess bottom line, if I were to get turntable in the future, is there a noticeable audio quality degradation by listening to records via bluetooth connected speakers vs connected/passive speakers?

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                    @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

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                      @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                      @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                      Surely Bluetooth is always going to be lower quality than hard wired?

                      I have two JBL powered monitor speakers hooked up to my PC, connected via a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 audio interface, and it works great - the Focusrite lets you hook up a regular mic or a guitar as well, or switch over to headphones really easily.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                        @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                        Surely Bluetooth is always going to be lower quality than hard wired?

                        I have two JBL powered monitor speakers hooked up to my PC, connected via a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 audio interface, and it works great - the Focusrite lets you hook up a regular mic or a guitar as well, or switch over to headphones really easily.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        1. Which speakers do you have? I'm thinking of moving my Klipsch set to the digital piano and getting something new for the computer.
                        2. The "Focusrite?" What, exactly does it do, allow you to switch from external speakers to headphones with the click of a dial? Looking at the various options on Amazon, they look pricey. I haven't looked around, but surely there's a cheapo A-B switch you could use to accomplish that, right?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Doctor-Phibes

                          1. Which speakers do you have? I'm thinking of moving my Klipsch set to the digital piano and getting something new for the computer.
                          2. The "Focusrite?" What, exactly does it do, allow you to switch from external speakers to headphones with the click of a dial? Looking at the various options on Amazon, they look pricey. I haven't looked around, but surely there's a cheapo A-B switch you could use to accomplish that, right?
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                          @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                          @Doctor-Phibes

                          1. Which speakers do you have? I'm thinking of moving my Klipsch set to the digital piano and getting something new for the computer.
                          2. The "Focusrite?" What, exactly does it do, allow you to switch from external speakers to headphones with the click of a dial? Looking at the various options on Amazon, they look pricey. I haven't looked around, but surely there's a cheapo A-B switch you could use to accomplish that, right?

                          The speakers are JBL 305P Mk ii, so a 5 inch main speaker - there are other sizes. Bear in mind they're monitors, so they're intended not to colour the sound

                          The Focusrite is basically a sound card and A/D interface - it acts as an interface between the digital USB output from the PC, and provides a decent quality audio output to the speakers. It also takes analog inputs from microphones or guitars and sends them over to the PC as digital. I'm sure there are cheaper options - I got it mostly because I was using a virtual guitar amp on the PC, and it has an electric guitar input.

                          I was only joking

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                          • George KG George K

                            @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

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                            @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                            @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                            Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                              @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                              Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

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                              @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                              Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

                              Ah, okay.

                              Well, then, let me rephrase and change the direction of my question. If you're willing to sacrifice quality by relying on a bluetooth connection, why bother with a turntable? Just stream it from your phone/whatever.

                              (insert "inconvenience" meme here: ________________)

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

                                Ah, okay.

                                Well, then, let me rephrase and change the direction of my question. If you're willing to sacrifice quality by relying on a bluetooth connection, why bother with a turntable? Just stream it from your phone/whatever.

                                (insert "inconvenience" meme here: ________________)

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                                @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

                                Ah, okay.

                                Well, then, let me rephrase and change the direction of my question. If you're willing to sacrifice quality by relying on a bluetooth connection, why bother with a turntable? Just stream it from your phone/whatever.

                                (insert "inconvenience" meme here: ________________)

                                You know, that is a very good way at thinking about it. Would love to hear a comparison of vinyl as played via bluetooth vs connected speakers. I'm sure if I google it I'll be heading down a black hole of audiophile opinions.

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                  @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                  Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

                                  Ah, okay.

                                  Well, then, let me rephrase and change the direction of my question. If you're willing to sacrifice quality by relying on a bluetooth connection, why bother with a turntable? Just stream it from your phone/whatever.

                                  (insert "inconvenience" meme here: ________________)

                                  You know, that is a very good way at thinking about it. Would love to hear a comparison of vinyl as played via bluetooth vs connected speakers. I'm sure if I google it I'll be heading down a black hole of audiophile opinions.

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                                  @89th Your are just digitizing the analog signal , surface noise and all.

                                  If you want an analog system, build one.

                                  You can use a BT DAC on one set of inputs on the receiver. So you can still stream/mp3/flac etc.

                                  The chain from stylus to speaker should always be, all analog.

                                  They even have these stupid expensive A/D converters for "audiophiles" that remove the surface noise, any stray clicks or pops are all processed out of the digitized signal. What the fuck is the point here? Just stream all digital at that point. I have heard these devices at AXPONA and I was not impressed.

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                                  • markM mark

                                    @89th Your are just digitizing the analog signal , surface noise and all.

                                    If you want an analog system, build one.

                                    You can use a BT DAC on one set of inputs on the receiver. So you can still stream/mp3/flac etc.

                                    The chain from stylus to speaker should always be, all analog.

                                    They even have these stupid expensive A/D converters for "audiophiles" that remove the surface noise, any stray clicks or pops are all processed out of the digitized signal. What the fuck is the point here? Just stream all digital at that point. I have heard these devices at AXPONA and I was not impressed.

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                                    @mark Thanks! The surface noise is absolutely part of the value, IMO.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      @mark Thanks! The surface noise is absolutely part of the value, IMO.

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                                      @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                      The surface noise is absolutely part of the value, IMO.

                                      Yeah, we wouldn't want to listen to music without all that artifact, would we?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                        The surface noise is absolutely part of the value, IMO.

                                        Yeah, we wouldn't want to listen to music without all that artifact, would we?

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                                        @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                        @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                        The surface noise is absolutely part of the value, IMO.

                                        Yeah, we wouldn't want to listen to music without all that artifact, would we?

                                        Actually, that artifact varies greatly record to record. I have some records that are absolute silence in that department and some that border on "I need a different copy of this!". But that's part of the fun of the hunt for great copy of something.

                                        Sure I can always just switch inputs and stream with a very capable DAC but that rarely happens. Pretty much if I don't have it on vinyl, I will stream or listen to a flac version using foobar2000.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                          The surface noise is absolutely part of the value, IMO.

                                          Yeah, we wouldn't want to listen to music without all that artifact, would we?

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                                          @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                          @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                          The surface noise is absolutely part of the value, IMO.

                                          Yeah, we wouldn't want to listen to music without all that artifact, would we?

                                          I've never understood this vinyl thing. Buying vinyl was a great pleasure back in the day - unwrapping the record, looking at the liner notes, and what have you, but actually using it - I don't miss that shit at all.

                                          I was only joking

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