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Hey vinyl people.

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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
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    In our bedroom system, I have a Rotel receiver. I got it for $150. It was originally $900. A comparable new piece of equipment would be around $1,500. Give yourself some time. And don't be afraid of the yard sale/garage sale items - could be an interim solution as you look for your ideal piece of equipment. Just be sure it works.

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    • kluursK kluurs

      Do you think you might listen to FM stations at all? CDs? Either way, I'd put the most effort in the turntable. Mark's given good counsel. You want to make sure you don't ruin records - and at the same time capture everything that is there.

      As for amplification, I'd probably look for getting the best bang for the buck by going used. I've seen incredible deals on FB marketplace for used Yamaha receivers/integrated amps. I've seen several hundred dollar pieces of equipment going for $50 - sometimes less. At an estate sale I saw a $450 NAD receiver for $40. I sold a Sony Receiver with limited usage for $15. It is a good time to purchase used electronics as people downsize.

      A friend of mine asked for help putting together a system. I asked her what her budget was? "A hundred dollars," was her reply. At first I was stunned - but I found a pair of speakers being tossed by a woman moving out of her apartment. I bought a receiver at a garage sale for $10 and a CD player for $5. She's used that system for the past 25 years. Still works!

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      #21

      @kluurs said in Hey vinyl people.:

      Do you think you might listen to FM stations at all? CDs? Either way, I'd put the most effort in the turntable. Mark's given good counsel. You want to make sure you don't ruin records - and at the same time capture everything that is there.

      As for amplification, I'd probably look for getting the best bang for the buck by going used. I've seen incredible deals on FB marketplace for used Yamaha receivers/integrated amps. I've seen several hundred dollar pieces of equipment going for $50 - sometimes less. At an estate sale I saw a $450 NAD receiver for $40. I sold a Sony Receiver with limited usage for $15. It is a good time to purchase used electronics as people downsize.

      A friend of mine asked for help putting together a system. I asked her what her budget was? "A hundred dollars," was her reply. At first I was stunned - but I found a pair of speakers being tossed by a woman moving out of her apartment. I bought a receiver at a garage sale for $10 and a CD player for $5. She's used that system for the past 25 years. Still works!

      Nothing like that around here.

      β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @mark said in Hey vinyl people.:

        DO NOT BUY EITHER OF OF THOSE POS TTs that Copper linked. They will ruin your records.

        Yeah, that looks more than a little suspect.

        markM Offline
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        #22

        @Aqua-Letifer

        $25.00

        https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/for/d/alexandria-denon-dra-350-integrated/7460484421.html

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        • KlausK Offline
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          #23

          I have an idea for a turntable.

          Its arm would mainly be a camera and a fake sound pickup.

          It works by using the camera and a record database to identify the record that is on the turntable. Then it would find those songs on Spotify and play them back from Spotify instead of the record. Perfect audio quality while still "feeling" like a good old record, with all the psychological benefits thereof. Win-win!

          (just pulling your leg a little, @mark πŸ™‚ )

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          • KlausK Klaus

            I have an idea for a turntable.

            Its arm would mainly be a camera and a fake sound pickup.

            It works by using the camera and a record database to identify the record that is on the turntable. Then it would find those songs on Spotify and play them back from Spotify instead of the record. Perfect audio quality while still "feeling" like a good old record, with all the psychological benefits thereof. Win-win!

            (just pulling your leg a little, @mark πŸ™‚ )

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #24

            @Klaus said in Hey vinyl people.:

            I have an idea for a turntable.

            Its arm would mainly be a camera and a fake sound pickup.

            It works by using the camera and a record database to identify the record that is on the turntable. Then it would find those songs on Spotify and play them back from Spotify instead of the record. Perfect audio quality while still "feeling" like a good old record, with all the psychological benefits thereof. Win-win!

            (just pulling your leg a little, @mark πŸ™‚ )

            It would have to skip
            It would have to skip
            It would have to skip
            It would have to skip
            It would have to skip
            It would have to skip

            every once in a while

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            • CopperC Copper

              @Klaus said in Hey vinyl people.:

              I have an idea for a turntable.

              Its arm would mainly be a camera and a fake sound pickup.

              It works by using the camera and a record database to identify the record that is on the turntable. Then it would find those songs on Spotify and play them back from Spotify instead of the record. Perfect audio quality while still "feeling" like a good old record, with all the psychological benefits thereof. Win-win!

              (just pulling your leg a little, @mark πŸ™‚ )

              It would have to skip
              It would have to skip
              It would have to skip
              It would have to skip
              It would have to skip
              It would have to skip

              every once in a while

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              #25

              @Copper None of my albums skip.

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • markM mark

                @Copper None of my albums skip.

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                George K
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                #26

                @mark said in Hey vinyl people.:

                @Copper None of my albums skip...

                ...yet.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  taiwan_girl
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                  #27

                  What is good software if you transfer a record to a Mac?

                  George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    What is good software if you transfer a record to a Mac?

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @taiwan_girl why bother?

                    You're probably going to lose a lot of fidelity by going through the process of hooking a turntable to a computer.

                    You're probably better off by relying on a steaming service that will have your music, and probably at a higher fidelity.

                    At my age, CDs aren't even worth the effort any more.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @taiwan_girl why bother?

                      You're probably going to lose a lot of fidelity by going through the process of hooking a turntable to a computer.

                      You're probably better off by relying on a steaming service that will have your music, and probably at a higher fidelity.

                      At my age, CDs aren't even worth the effort any more.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      #29

                      @George-K Ah, you are probably correct.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @mark said in Hey vinyl people.:

                        @Copper None of my albums skip...

                        ...yet.

                        markM Offline
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                        #30

                        @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                        @mark said in Hey vinyl people.:

                        @Copper None of my albums skip...

                        ...yet.

                        What do you think will cause them to skip? Age? NOPE! I have an original pressing of Miles Davis Kind of Blue from the 50s that doesn't skip. I have many original pressing from the 60s and 70s that don't skip either.

                        Take care of them, and they will not skip.

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          #31

                          Good advice @mark and others. I plan on getting this set up for my home office one day and will reference this thread in the future.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              89th
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                              #33

                              Regarding speakers, right now I'm looking at getting a pair of speakers for my desktop computer. @George-K knows I'm a fan of the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers, but I guess their biggest drawback these days is lack of wireless/bluetooth connectivity.

                              Why am I posting in this thread? I guess bottom line, if I were to get turntable in the future, is there a noticeable audio quality degradation by listening to records via bluetooth connected speakers vs connected/passive speakers?

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Regarding speakers, right now I'm looking at getting a pair of speakers for my desktop computer. @George-K knows I'm a fan of the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers, but I guess their biggest drawback these days is lack of wireless/bluetooth connectivity.

                                Why am I posting in this thread? I guess bottom line, if I were to get turntable in the future, is there a noticeable audio quality degradation by listening to records via bluetooth connected speakers vs connected/passive speakers?

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                                #34

                                @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

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                                  @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                  @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                                  Surely Bluetooth is always going to be lower quality than hard wired?

                                  I have two JBL powered monitor speakers hooked up to my PC, connected via a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 audio interface, and it works great - the Focusrite lets you hook up a regular mic or a guitar as well, or switch over to headphones really easily.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                    @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                                    Surely Bluetooth is always going to be lower quality than hard wired?

                                    I have two JBL powered monitor speakers hooked up to my PC, connected via a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 audio interface, and it works great - the Focusrite lets you hook up a regular mic or a guitar as well, or switch over to headphones really easily.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes

                                    1. Which speakers do you have? I'm thinking of moving my Klipsch set to the digital piano and getting something new for the computer.
                                    2. The "Focusrite?" What, exactly does it do, allow you to switch from external speakers to headphones with the click of a dial? Looking at the various options on Amazon, they look pricey. I haven't looked around, but surely there's a cheapo A-B switch you could use to accomplish that, right?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @Doctor-Phibes

                                      1. Which speakers do you have? I'm thinking of moving my Klipsch set to the digital piano and getting something new for the computer.
                                      2. The "Focusrite?" What, exactly does it do, allow you to switch from external speakers to headphones with the click of a dial? Looking at the various options on Amazon, they look pricey. I haven't looked around, but surely there's a cheapo A-B switch you could use to accomplish that, right?
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                                      @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes

                                      1. Which speakers do you have? I'm thinking of moving my Klipsch set to the digital piano and getting something new for the computer.
                                      2. The "Focusrite?" What, exactly does it do, allow you to switch from external speakers to headphones with the click of a dial? Looking at the various options on Amazon, they look pricey. I haven't looked around, but surely there's a cheapo A-B switch you could use to accomplish that, right?

                                      The speakers are JBL 305P Mk ii, so a 5 inch main speaker - there are other sizes. Bear in mind they're monitors, so they're intended not to colour the sound

                                      The Focusrite is basically a sound card and A/D interface - it acts as an interface between the digital USB output from the PC, and provides a decent quality audio output to the speakers. It also takes analog inputs from microphones or guitars and sends them over to the PC as digital. I'm sure there are cheaper options - I got it mostly because I was using a virtual guitar amp on the PC, and it has an electric guitar input.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

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                                        @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                        @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                                        Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @George-K said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                          @89th why would you want to use bluetooth if a hard-wired connection is available, easy and reliable?

                                          Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

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                                          @89th said in Hey vinyl people.:

                                          Under the premise of I have the computer speakers (Klipsch) connected to my computer but would want to "switch" to playing music from the turntable instead (that is across the room).

                                          Ah, okay.

                                          Well, then, let me rephrase and change the direction of my question. If you're willing to sacrifice quality by relying on a bluetooth connection, why bother with a turntable? Just stream it from your phone/whatever.

                                          (insert "inconvenience" meme here: ________________)

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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