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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
    wrote on last edited by
    #17

    Never heard of it. Neither had any of the black people I've asked about it.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
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      #18

      So, I can actually get behind a holiday that commemorates the freeing of the slaves. It's symbolically a major turning point in this country, and quite frankly, it's a good reminder to BLM today that slaves were freed 150 years ago.

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      • LarryL Larry

        Never heard of it. Neither had any of the black people I've asked about it.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #19

        @Larry said in Juneteenth:

        Never heard of it. Neither had any of the black people I've asked about it.

        Big deal among the black folk down here...They've got the date wrong, though...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • L Offline
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          Loki
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          #20

          June 19th is also

          Garlield the Cat day
          National dry martini day
          Take back the lunch break day
          Ugliest dog day
          Wear blue day
          Work at home Father’s Day
          World sauntering day

          These are all symbols of white privilege. We need to eliminate.

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • L Loki

            June 19th is also

            Garlield the Cat day
            National dry martini day
            Take back the lunch break day
            Ugliest dog day
            Wear blue day
            Work at home Father’s Day
            World sauntering day

            These are all symbols of white privilege. We need to eliminate.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            @Loki ouststanding!

            Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

            If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • L Offline
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              Loki
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              #22

              https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/17/cuomo-to-propose-making-juneteenth-a-new-york-state-holiday.html?__twitter_impression=true&recirc=taboolainternal

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              • George KG George K

                @Loki ouststanding!

                Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

                If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                @George-K said in Juneteenth:

                @Loki ouststanding!

                Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

                If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

                Might need Mrs. George for that last one...

                Link to video

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @George-K said in Juneteenth:

                  @Loki ouststanding!

                  Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

                  If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

                  Might need Mrs. George for that last one...

                  Link to video

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  @Jolly , indeed!

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #25

                    Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                    On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                    Um, no it didn't.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                      On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                      Um, no it didn't.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #26

                      @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

                      Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                      On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                      Um, no it didn't.

                      Yeah, how about that? They stood in solidarity to remove an institution that they "invented" (see Tim Kaine reference).

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #27

                        Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                        The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                        The USA ended slavery.

                        Credit where credit is due.

                        RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                          On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                          Um, no it didn't.

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                          Catseye3
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                          #28

                          @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

                          On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                          Um, no it didn't.

                          Oh, Jon, don't be such a Debbie Downer.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                            On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                            Um, no it didn't.

                            LarryL Offline
                            LarryL Offline
                            Larry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

                            Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                            On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                            Um, no it didn't.

                            You're correct. In the 1960s the democrats put them back on a plantation.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                              The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                              The USA ended slavery.

                              Credit where credit is due.

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #30

                              @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                              Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                              The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                              The USA ended slavery.

                              Credit where credit is due

                              No credit due actually.

                              If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                              Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                              So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #31

                                @Renauda said in Juneteenth:

                                By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                                (Renauda!!! Hey! Just saw your other posts and that you're around! Are you playing anything lately?)

                                Anyway, that's a fun mental experiment I like to think through sometimes: how would the British have dealt with the economic ramifications in the South? I'm guessing it would have been about as bad a transition as we actually had.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                                  Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                                  The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                                  The USA ended slavery.

                                  Credit where credit is due

                                  No credit due actually.

                                  If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                                  Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                                  So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

                                  CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #32

                                  @Renauda said in Juneteenth:

                                  @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                                  Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                                  The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                                  The USA ended slavery.

                                  Credit where credit is due

                                  No credit due actually.

                                  If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                                  Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                                  So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

                                  Slavery was created here by the brits, the credit is theirs.

                                  Credit where credit is due

                                  Obviously

                                  The USA ended slavery in the USA.

                                  Credit where credit is due

                                  Obviously

                                  Of course the brits continued the practice in many forms worldwide for many years even into this century.

                                  Credit where credit is due

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                                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #33

                                    With all due respect I'm sure, you are probably right. Obviously.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • LarryL Offline
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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #34

                                      If you want to get right down to the core of it, slavery has existed since the dawn of history, is quite actively practiced today, by the same people who sold slaves to America in the first place - black africans, and equally so muslims, getting rid of the "undesirables" among them.

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