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    Mik
    wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 17:23 last edited by
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    I've known about it for at least 40 years.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • A Axtremus
      13 Jun 2020, 12:16

      Trump reschedules Tulsa rally 'out of respect' for Juneteenth
      https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/politics/donald-trump-tulsa-rally-juneteenth/index.html

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      Copper
      wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 19:40 last edited by
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      @Axtremus said in Juneteenth:

      Trump reschedules Tulsa rally 'out of respect' for Juneteenth

      It's not a holiday, there is no holiday to respect.

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        Larry
        wrote on 17 Jun 2020, 19:49 last edited by
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        Never heard of it. Neither had any of the black people I've asked about it.

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          89th
          wrote on 18 Jun 2020, 01:20 last edited by
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          So, I can actually get behind a holiday that commemorates the freeing of the slaves. It's symbolically a major turning point in this country, and quite frankly, it's a good reminder to BLM today that slaves were freed 150 years ago.

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          • L Larry
            17 Jun 2020, 19:49

            Never heard of it. Neither had any of the black people I've asked about it.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 18 Jun 2020, 14:11 last edited by
            #19

            @Larry said in Juneteenth:

            Never heard of it. Neither had any of the black people I've asked about it.

            Big deal among the black folk down here...They've got the date wrong, though...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Loki
              wrote on 18 Jun 2020, 14:17 last edited by
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              June 19th is also

              Garlield the Cat day
              National dry martini day
              Take back the lunch break day
              Ugliest dog day
              Wear blue day
              Work at home Father’s Day
              World sauntering day

              These are all symbols of white privilege. We need to eliminate.

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              • L Loki
                18 Jun 2020, 14:17

                June 19th is also

                Garlield the Cat day
                National dry martini day
                Take back the lunch break day
                Ugliest dog day
                Wear blue day
                Work at home Father’s Day
                World sauntering day

                These are all symbols of white privilege. We need to eliminate.

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                George K
                wrote on 18 Jun 2020, 14:24 last edited by
                #21

                @Loki ouststanding!

                Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

                If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 18 Jun 2020, 21:45 last edited by
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                  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/17/cuomo-to-propose-making-juneteenth-a-new-york-state-holiday.html?__twitter_impression=true&recirc=taboolainternal

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                  • G George K
                    18 Jun 2020, 14:24

                    @Loki ouststanding!

                    Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

                    If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 18 Jun 2020, 23:58 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in Juneteenth:

                    @Loki ouststanding!

                    Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

                    If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

                    Might need Mrs. George for that last one...

                    Link to video

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      18 Jun 2020, 23:58

                      @George-K said in Juneteenth:

                      @Loki ouststanding!

                      Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

                      If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

                      Might need Mrs. George for that last one...

                      Link to video

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                      George K
                      wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 00:11 last edited by
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                      @Jolly , indeed!

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 01:46 last edited by
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                        Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                        On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                        Um, no it didn't.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          19 Jun 2020, 01:46

                          Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                          On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                          Um, no it didn't.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 01:56 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

                          Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                          On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                          Um, no it didn't.

                          Yeah, how about that? They stood in solidarity to remove an institution that they "invented" (see Tim Kaine reference).

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 15:32 last edited by
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                            Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                            The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                            The USA ended slavery.

                            Credit where credit is due.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              19 Jun 2020, 01:46

                              Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                              On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                              Um, no it didn't.

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 15:35 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

                              On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                              Um, no it didn't.

                              Oh, Jon, don't be such a Debbie Downer.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                19 Jun 2020, 01:46

                                Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                                On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                                Um, no it didn't.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 17:23 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

                                Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

                                On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

                                Um, no it didn't.

                                You're correct. In the 1960s the democrats put them back on a plantation.

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                                • C Copper
                                  19 Jun 2020, 15:32

                                  Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                                  The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                                  The USA ended slavery.

                                  Credit where credit is due.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 18:41 last edited by Renauda
                                  #30

                                  @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                                  Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                                  The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                                  The USA ended slavery.

                                  Credit where credit is due

                                  No credit due actually.

                                  If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                                  Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                                  So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 18:49 last edited by
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                                    @Renauda said in Juneteenth:

                                    By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                                    (Renauda!!! Hey! Just saw your other posts and that you're around! Are you playing anything lately?)

                                    Anyway, that's a fun mental experiment I like to think through sometimes: how would the British have dealt with the economic ramifications in the South? I'm guessing it would have been about as bad a transition as we actually had.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      19 Jun 2020, 18:41

                                      @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                                      Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                                      The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                                      The USA ended slavery.

                                      Credit where credit is due

                                      No credit due actually.

                                      If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                                      Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                                      So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 19:51 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in Juneteenth:

                                      @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                                      Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                                      The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                                      The USA ended slavery.

                                      Credit where credit is due

                                      No credit due actually.

                                      If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                                      Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                                      So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

                                      Slavery was created here by the brits, the credit is theirs.

                                      Credit where credit is due

                                      Obviously

                                      The USA ended slavery in the USA.

                                      Credit where credit is due

                                      Obviously

                                      Of course the brits continued the practice in many forms worldwide for many years even into this century.

                                      Credit where credit is due

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 19:54 last edited by Renauda
                                        #33

                                        With all due respect I'm sure, you are probably right. Obviously.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on 19 Jun 2020, 21:07 last edited by
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                                          If you want to get right down to the core of it, slavery has existed since the dawn of history, is quite actively practiced today, by the same people who sold slaves to America in the first place - black africans, and equally so muslims, getting rid of the "undesirables" among them.

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