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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @George-K said in Juneteenth:

    @Loki ouststanding!

    Tomorrow I'll go for a saunter, perhaps an amble!

    If I'm feeling adventurous, I might even stroll!

    Might need Mrs. George for that last one...

    Link to video

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    George K
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    #24

    @Jolly , indeed!

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
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      #25

      Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

      On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

      Um, no it didn't.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

        On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

        Um, no it didn't.

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        @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

        Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

        On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

        Um, no it didn't.

        Yeah, how about that? They stood in solidarity to remove an institution that they "invented" (see Tim Kaine reference).

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Copper
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          Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

          The United States came along long after slavery started here.

          The USA ended slavery.

          Credit where credit is due.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

            On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

            Um, no it didn't.

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            Catseye3
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            #28

            @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

            On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

            Um, no it didn't.

            Oh, Jon, don't be such a Debbie Downer.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

              On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

              Um, no it didn't.

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              @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth:

              Ok, this was just funny. Our 'county executive' sent out the now-obligatory Juneteenth message and it started like this:

              On June 19, 1865, our nation stood together in solidarity as we marked the emancipation of African Americans from slavery in the United States...

              Um, no it didn't.

              You're correct. In the 1960s the democrats put them back on a plantation.

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              • CopperC Copper

                Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                The USA ended slavery.

                Credit where credit is due.

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                Renauda
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                #30

                @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                The USA ended slavery.

                Credit where credit is due

                No credit due actually.

                If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

                Elbows up!

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                  @Renauda said in Juneteenth:

                  By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                  (Renauda!!! Hey! Just saw your other posts and that you're around! Are you playing anything lately?)

                  Anyway, that's a fun mental experiment I like to think through sometimes: how would the British have dealt with the economic ramifications in the South? I'm guessing it would have been about as bad a transition as we actually had.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                    Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                    The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                    The USA ended slavery.

                    Credit where credit is due

                    No credit due actually.

                    If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                    Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                    So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

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                    Copper
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                    @Renauda said in Juneteenth:

                    @Copper said in Juneteenth:

                    Let's not forget slavery was instituted in the colonies by the brits.

                    The United States came along long after slavery started here.

                    The USA ended slavery.

                    Credit where credit is due

                    No credit due actually.

                    If the American colonies had remained part of the Empire, slavery would have been abolished in law in 1833. By 1838 the institution of slavery virtually ceased to exist throughout the British Empire through rigorous enforcement. That might just explain why escaped slaves from the antibellum USA tended to seek asylum in the remaining British North American colonies to the north of the USA.

                    Secondly, the USA did not end slavery. Sadly it is alive and well in many parts of the world today. In fact, there are probably even underground instances of the despicable practice in present day USA.

                    So again, no credit due. Certainly not from anywhere outside of the USA, especially those of us residing north of the 49th parallel.

                    Slavery was created here by the brits, the credit is theirs.

                    Credit where credit is due

                    Obviously

                    The USA ended slavery in the USA.

                    Credit where credit is due

                    Obviously

                    Of course the brits continued the practice in many forms worldwide for many years even into this century.

                    Credit where credit is due

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                      Renauda
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                      #33

                      With all due respect I'm sure, you are probably right. Obviously.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • LarryL Offline
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                        Larry
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                        If you want to get right down to the core of it, slavery has existed since the dawn of history, is quite actively practiced today, by the same people who sold slaves to America in the first place - black africans, and equally so muslims, getting rid of the "undesirables" among them.

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