Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge

[George K]

In the comments, someone said that AG Ellison (D-Islam) up-charged Chauvin in the hopes of getting a "not guilty" to provoke more unrest.

[Jolly]

Buy ammo.

[Improviso]

Click.. ckick.

Ready.

[Doctor Phibes]

[Mik]

8.5 minutes with a man's knee on his neck, while he is stating he can't breathe. Sorry, not buying it.

[Horace]

It would be unconstitutional to ask any private citizen to sit on a jury where their lives will be all but forfeit should they decide against the mob's will.

[Copper]

Ya sure, like that could ever happen, hahahaha

It is 26 years today since the OJ Bronco chase.

That case was interesting too.

[Horace]

It's been interesting to watch society gradually come around to considering it a joke to think OJ might not be guilty. At the time, the virtuous folk were toeing the line about reasonable doubt. I remember it well because it was my first encounter with blatant intellectual dishonesty in service of being on the virtuous side of a cultural discussion.

[89th]

@Mik said in Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge:

8.5 minutes with a man's knee on his neck, while he is stating he can't breathe. Sorry, not buying it.

To be clear, I'm not defending the actions by Chauvin. However, I'm sure suspects yell "I can't breathe" all the time. It also wasn't 8.5 minutes on his windpipe, as you can see Floyd talking, moving his neck around. Again, not defending Chauvin, but it also wasn't like he was straight up choking the air from Floyd for 8 minutes. The number of other factors (blood/heart issues, multiple drugs in his system, etc) also play a factor.

All that being said, I think the clearest and most criminal part of what Chauvin did was remaining on Floyd's neck for 1-2 minutes after it was clear Floyd had passed out. Even if Chauvin thought it was because of drugs, he should've still immediately checked for a pulse (etc).

[Rainman]

Yeah 89th, I just clicked on the non-existent "like" button in regards to your post.

[89th]

Thanks. And my above post is why I think he'll be found guilty of manslaughter, not murder. Hopefully that mutes some of the resulting riots.