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Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    And yes, @Improviso there will be MASSIVE protests and looting once the verdict is read. Do we have any idea generally on the timeline for a court trial?

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    • 89th8 89th

      And yes, @Improviso there will be MASSIVE protests and looting once the verdict is read. Do we have any idea generally on the timeline for a court trial?

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      Improviso
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      @89th said in Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge:

      Do we have any idea generally on the timeline for a court trial?

      If Trump is re-elected, it will probably be scheduled the day after inauguration.

      If Biden wins, it probably won't take place until sometime in 2024.

      Yea... tell me I'm wrong. 😬

      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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        In the comments, someone said that AG Ellison (D-Islam) up-charged Chauvin in the hopes of getting a "not guilty" to provoke more unrest.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #8

          Buy ammo.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • ImprovisoI Offline
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            Improviso
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            #9

            Click.. ckick.

            Ready.

            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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              #10

              alt text

              I was only joking

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              • MikM Offline
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                #11

                8.5 minutes with a man's knee on his neck, while he is stating he can't breathe. Sorry, not buying it.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  #12

                  It would be unconstitutional to ask any private citizen to sit on a jury where their lives will be all but forfeit should they decide against the mob's will.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #13

                    Ya sure, like that could ever happen, hahahaha

                    It is 26 years today since the OJ Bronco chase.

                    That case was interesting too.

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                      It's been interesting to watch society gradually come around to considering it a joke to think OJ might not be guilty. At the time, the virtuous folk were toeing the line about reasonable doubt. I remember it well because it was my first encounter with blatant intellectual dishonesty in service of being on the virtuous side of a cultural discussion.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        8.5 minutes with a man's knee on his neck, while he is stating he can't breathe. Sorry, not buying it.

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                        @Mik said in Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge:

                        8.5 minutes with a man's knee on his neck, while he is stating he can't breathe. Sorry, not buying it.

                        To be clear, I'm not defending the actions by Chauvin. However, I'm sure suspects yell "I can't breathe" all the time. It also wasn't 8.5 minutes on his windpipe, as you can see Floyd talking, moving his neck around. Again, not defending Chauvin, but it also wasn't like he was straight up choking the air from Floyd for 8 minutes. The number of other factors (blood/heart issues, multiple drugs in his system, etc) also play a factor.

                        All that being said, I think the clearest and most criminal part of what Chauvin did was remaining on Floyd's neck for 1-2 minutes after it was clear Floyd had passed out. Even if Chauvin thought it was because of drugs, he should've still immediately checked for a pulse (etc).

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                          Yeah 89th, I just clicked on the non-existent "like" button in regards to your post.

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                            Thanks. And my above post is why I think he'll be found guilty of manslaughter, not murder. Hopefully that mutes some of the resulting riots.

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