Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge
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Yup exactly. When I first read the autopsy and learned of all of the drugs and existing health conditions (add in a panic attack due to claustrophobia), my wife and I immediately said "wow, he may not be found guilty". Manslaughter maybe, but even that's a bit of a stretch when you look at ALL of the facts.
This reminds me of the segment of Sam Harris' podcast that focused on the pressure placed on Floyd's body as well as the highly unlikely intent Chauvin had of killing Floyd.
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And yes, @Improviso there will be MASSIVE protests and looting once the verdict is read. Do we have any idea generally on the timeline for a court trial?
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And yes, @Improviso there will be MASSIVE protests and looting once the verdict is read. Do we have any idea generally on the timeline for a court trial?
@89th said in Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge:
Do we have any idea generally on the timeline for a court trial?
If Trump is re-elected, it will probably be scheduled the day after inauguration.
If Biden wins, it probably won't take place until sometime in 2024.
Yea... tell me I'm wrong.
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It's been interesting to watch society gradually come around to considering it a joke to think OJ might not be guilty. At the time, the virtuous folk were toeing the line about reasonable doubt. I remember it well because it was my first encounter with blatant intellectual dishonesty in service of being on the virtuous side of a cultural discussion.
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8.5 minutes with a man's knee on his neck, while he is stating he can't breathe. Sorry, not buying it.
@Mik said in Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge:
8.5 minutes with a man's knee on his neck, while he is stating he can't breathe. Sorry, not buying it.
To be clear, I'm not defending the actions by Chauvin. However, I'm sure suspects yell "I can't breathe" all the time. It also wasn't 8.5 minutes on his windpipe, as you can see Floyd talking, moving his neck around. Again, not defending Chauvin, but it also wasn't like he was straight up choking the air from Floyd for 8 minutes. The number of other factors (blood/heart issues, multiple drugs in his system, etc) also play a factor.
All that being said, I think the clearest and most criminal part of what Chauvin did was remaining on Floyd's neck for 1-2 minutes after it was clear Floyd had passed out. Even if Chauvin thought it was because of drugs, he should've still immediately checked for a pulse (etc).
