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  • HoraceH Horace

    I assume that people getting fired explicitly for a protected reason are very few. These rules are used in court, where the aggrieved person tries to establish that the real, unspoken reason, was a protected reason. So it's become a clear advantage to belong to a group that allows one to argue they were fired for one of those reasons.

    I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.

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    @Horace said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

    I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.

    What gets me about that is the language implication. Some hardships are to be taken reverently (black hardships, transgender and gay hardships, illegal immigrant hardships), and other hardships are to be eye-rolled at. Dad walk out on you? Facing a drug charge? Lose your job? How much I care about that depends entirely on your skin color and sexual orientation.

    We've been to the moon. We know that quarks exist. We've radically improved the lives of AIDS patients and we invented Candy Crush. Surely we're smart enough to not make the exact same class-based mistakes that 20th century history taught us so much about.

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @Horace said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

      I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.

      What gets me about that is the language implication. Some hardships are to be taken reverently (black hardships, transgender and gay hardships, illegal immigrant hardships), and other hardships are to be eye-rolled at. Dad walk out on you? Facing a drug charge? Lose your job? How much I care about that depends entirely on your skin color and sexual orientation.

      We've been to the moon. We know that quarks exist. We've radically improved the lives of AIDS patients and we invented Candy Crush. Surely we're smart enough to not make the exact same class-based mistakes that 20th century history taught us so much about.

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      @Aqua-Letifer said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

      @Horace said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

      I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.

      What gets me about that is the language implication. Some hardships are to be taken reverently (black hardships, transgender and gay hardships, illegal immigrant hardships), and other hardships are to be eye-rolled at. Dad walk out on you? Facing a drug charge? Lose your job? How much I care about that depends entirely on your skin color and sexual orientation.

      We've been to the moon. We know that quarks exist. We've radically improved the lives of AIDS patients and we invented Candy Crush. Surely we're smart enough to not make the exact same class-based mistakes that 20th century history taught us so much about.

      Yes, I find that those who choose political affiliations based on their self-perception of higher moral character are those who end up reveling in their contempt for the hardships of others, as long as those others are the bad people.

      Education is extremely important.

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        So, make sure when you fire somebody, you fire them for cause.

        That shouldn't be hard.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Copper
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          Even better, don't hire them for cause.

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            Loki
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            Today you are more likely to be fired for being a police officer but all snark aside it’s really good to see this issue cleared up. I applaud it.

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              George K
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              4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency

              WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.

              "Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."

              "I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."

              Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.

              Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."

              Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                LuFins Dad
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                "Grab them by the ... "

                The Brad

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                • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #11

                  @George-K said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

                  4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency

                  WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.

                  "Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."

                  "I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."

                  Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.

                  Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."

                  Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.

                  I have no shit decided that in my next team meeting for work, I'm going to mention the Supreme Court decision and declare how happy I am because "this is a huge win for us."

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @George-K said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

                    4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency

                    WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.

                    "Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."

                    "I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."

                    Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.

                    Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."

                    Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.

                    I have no shit decided that in my next team meeting for work, I'm going to mention the Supreme Court decision and declare how happy I am because "this is a huge win for us."

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                    Horace
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                    #12

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

                    @George-K said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

                    4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency

                    WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.

                    "Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."

                    "I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."

                    Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.

                    Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."

                    Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.

                    I have no shit decided that in my next team meeting for work, I'm going to mention the Supreme Court decision and declare how happy I am because "this is a huge win for us."

                    Do it. I am serious when I say I am close. I give exactly that many fvcks (so to speak) about the alleged discrimination I'd face for being gay, and it'd be a fun little point to make. YOLO.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #13

                      I've reached the point where I think I will, if only to provide me with more TNCR topics of conversation afterward.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Dedication, thanks @Aqua-Letifer !

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

                            At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.

                            😄 What I love about that, is that if you asked that at an all-staff meeting during mandatory sensitivity training, if you were able to keep your nerve and say it deadly serious enough, there's nothing they could do to you.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.

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                              Jolly
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

                              At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.

                              Years ago, during one of those mandatory sexual harassment classes, where the person drones on about the nastiness against women in the workplace and then the poor dears go home to men who mistreat them...I couldn't help myself. I had to ask the session leader if there were any...sniff, sniff...resources for men whose wives physically mistreated them at home.

                              I thought she would drop her teeth.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Rainman
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                                Very good advice on this thread.
                                When you can, use humor to make your point, even if you need to say the opposite of what you really mean, and then whatever you do, keep a straight face as if you're serious.

                                I would love to be the fly on the wall, when Aqua participates.
                                But, I'd burst into laughter, even if I were a fly.
                                And you know what happens to noisy flies.

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  I've reached the point where I think I will, if only to provide me with more TNCR topics of conversation afterward.

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                                  Mik
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

                                  I've reached the point where I think I will, if only to provide me with more TNCR topics of conversation afterward.

                                  [FrankW Mode]DOOO EET! [/FrankW Mode]

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Srsly. The pony tail seals the deal. They would be so fucked. 😆

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Horace
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                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

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                                        @Horace said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:

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                                        I thought about that, too. It would be an awesome way to signal some bullshit nonverbally. And I work with people who would absolutely question me on it, which wouldn't end well.

                                        Please love yourself.

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