Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination
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Supreme Court opinion:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdfGorsuch wrote the majority opinion; excerpt:
“Today, we must decide whether an employer can fire someone simply for being homosexual or transgender. The answer is clear. An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex. Sex plays a necessary and undisguisable role in the decision, exactly what Title VII forbids.” -
I assume that people getting fired explicitly for a protected reason are very few. These rules are used in court, where the aggrieved person tries to establish that the real, unspoken reason, was a protected reason. So it's become a clear advantage to belong to a group that allows one to argue they were fired for one of those reasons.
I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.
Education is extremely important.
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I assume that people getting fired explicitly for a protected reason are very few. These rules are used in court, where the aggrieved person tries to establish that the real, unspoken reason, was a protected reason. So it's become a clear advantage to belong to a group that allows one to argue they were fired for one of those reasons.
I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.
@Horace said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.
What gets me about that is the language implication. Some hardships are to be taken reverently (black hardships, transgender and gay hardships, illegal immigrant hardships), and other hardships are to be eye-rolled at. Dad walk out on you? Facing a drug charge? Lose your job? How much I care about that depends entirely on your skin color and sexual orientation.
We've been to the moon. We know that quarks exist. We've radically improved the lives of AIDS patients and we invented Candy Crush. Surely we're smart enough to not make the exact same class-based mistakes that 20th century history taught us so much about.
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@Horace said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.
What gets me about that is the language implication. Some hardships are to be taken reverently (black hardships, transgender and gay hardships, illegal immigrant hardships), and other hardships are to be eye-rolled at. Dad walk out on you? Facing a drug charge? Lose your job? How much I care about that depends entirely on your skin color and sexual orientation.
We've been to the moon. We know that quarks exist. We've radically improved the lives of AIDS patients and we invented Candy Crush. Surely we're smart enough to not make the exact same class-based mistakes that 20th century history taught us so much about.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
@Horace said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
I am pretty close to coming out as gay, just for the social advantages of it. I remember when Dewey immediately made it clear that he now knows how black people feel, after he came out. Because he now knows discrimination. I'll probably go ahead and start thinking that, too.
What gets me about that is the language implication. Some hardships are to be taken reverently (black hardships, transgender and gay hardships, illegal immigrant hardships), and other hardships are to be eye-rolled at. Dad walk out on you? Facing a drug charge? Lose your job? How much I care about that depends entirely on your skin color and sexual orientation.
We've been to the moon. We know that quarks exist. We've radically improved the lives of AIDS patients and we invented Candy Crush. Surely we're smart enough to not make the exact same class-based mistakes that 20th century history taught us so much about.
Yes, I find that those who choose political affiliations based on their self-perception of higher moral character are those who end up reveling in their contempt for the hardships of others, as long as those others are the bad people.
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4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency
WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.
"Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."
"I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."
Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.
Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."
Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.
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@George-K said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency
WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.
"Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."
"I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."
Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.
Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."
Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.
I have no shit decided that in my next team meeting for work, I'm going to mention the Supreme Court decision and declare how happy I am because "this is a huge win for us."
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@George-K said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency
WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.
"Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."
"I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."
Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.
Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."
Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.
I have no shit decided that in my next team meeting for work, I'm going to mention the Supreme Court decision and declare how happy I am because "this is a huge win for us."
@Aqua-Letifer said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
@George-K said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
4D Chess: Trump Announces He Is Gay So He Cannot Be Fired From The Presidency
WASHINGTON, D.C.—After SCOTUS ruled Monday that LGBTQ people cannot be fired for their orientation, President Trump immediately announced he has long been in the closet as a gay man.
"Men? Love 'em," Trump said at a press conference. "Yep, I'm gay. 100% all about the rainbow, the men raining from the sky, all of that stuff. Totally gay."
"I am probably the gayest person, maybe ever. Many people say so."
Liberals screamed at the sky in protest as their move to protect LGBTQ people from being discriminated against in the workplace backfired. The celebration outside the Supreme Court quickly turned somber as they realized what they had done, guaranteeing Trump will never be allowed to be removed from the White House. The progressive activists immediately began working to get the ruling overturned.
Legal analysts said Trump's move was "genius" and "legally foolproof." "Yeah, there's not much anyone can do to get Trump out of the White House now," said Dr. Harry Von Ulrich, a constitutional law professor. "We're stuck with him until 2032, best case scenario."
Mike Pence immediately resigned in protest.
I have no shit decided that in my next team meeting for work, I'm going to mention the Supreme Court decision and declare how happy I am because "this is a huge win for us."
Do it. I am serious when I say I am close. I give exactly that many fvcks (so to speak) about the alleged discrimination I'd face for being gay, and it'd be a fun little point to make. YOLO.
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I've reached the point where I think I will, if only to provide me with more TNCR topics of conversation afterward.
Please love yourself.
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Dedication, thanks @Aqua-Letifer !
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At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.
I was only joking
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At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.
What I love about that, is that if you asked that at an all-staff meeting during mandatory sensitivity training, if you were able to keep your nerve and say it deadly serious enough, there's nothing they could do to you. -
At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
At my last job in England one of the engineers asked whether it counted as being gay if he had sex with blokes but didn't really enjoy it.
Years ago, during one of those mandatory sexual harassment classes, where the person drones on about the nastiness against women in the workplace and then the poor dears go home to men who mistreat them...I couldn't help myself. I had to ask the session leader if there were any...sniff, sniff...resources for men whose wives physically mistreated them at home.
I thought she would drop her teeth.
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Very good advice on this thread.
When you can, use humor to make your point, even if you need to say the opposite of what you really mean, and then whatever you do, keep a straight face as if you're serious.I would love to be the fly on the wall, when Aqua participates.
But, I'd burst into laughter, even if I were a fly.
And you know what happens to noisy flies. -
I've reached the point where I think I will, if only to provide me with more TNCR topics of conversation afterward.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Supreme Court ruled on transgender discrimination:
I've reached the point where I think I will, if only to provide me with more TNCR topics of conversation afterward.
[FrankW Mode]DOOO EET! [/FrankW Mode]
