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  • MikM Mik

    @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

    @Loki said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

    Of course there was no interest in the truth.

    The ones who do not want the truth are the ones who say not to disclose the information, not to publish the information in the first place. There is no “truth” in the absence of information.

    So publish yours. Let’s see ‘em, Ax. How are we to know we can trust you are truthful if we can’t see your personal information?

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    Jolly
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    #124

    @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

    @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

    @Loki said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

    Of course there was no interest in the truth.

    The ones who do not want the truth are the ones who say not to disclose the information, not to publish the information in the first place. There is no “truth” in the absence of information.

    So publish yours. Let’s see ‘em, Ax. How are we to know we can trust you are truthful if we can’t see your personal information?

    On the net, of course.

    And don't forget that Social Security number!

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Kinda like Obama's transcripts?

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      George K
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      #125

      @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

      Kinda like Obama's transcripts?

      Or Pelosi's income tax returns.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Mik

        @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

        @Loki said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

        Of course there was no interest in the truth.

        The ones who do not want the truth are the ones who say not to disclose the information, not to publish the information in the first place. There is no “truth” in the absence of information.

        So publish yours. Let’s see ‘em, Ax. How are we to know we can trust you are truthful if we can’t see your personal information?

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        Axtremus
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        #126

        @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

        The ones who do not want the truth are the ones who say not to disclose the information, not to publish the information in the first place. There is no “truth” in the absence of information.

        So publish yours. Let’s see ‘em, Ax. How are we to know we can trust you are truthful if we can’t see your personal information?

        Gee, have I ever asked you to trust me?

        Have I ever asked to be entrusted with, say, the command of the nation's entire military might including the nuclear launch codes?

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #127

          Yep. You ask us to trust your posts every day.

          We don’t, but you keep asking. 😁

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Yep. You ask us to trust your posts every day.

            We don’t, but you keep asking. 😁

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            Axtremus
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            @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

            You ask us to trust your posts every day.

            I never ask. All y'all just know that I'm right. 😎

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            • MikM Mik

              Yep. It’s nonsense. Technologically you could do it, yes. Administratively? Never.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #129

              @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

              Yep. It’s nonsense. Technologically you could do it, yes. Administratively? Never.

              Yep. This.

              Please love yourself.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                You ask us to trust your posts every day.

                I never ask. All y'all just know that I'm right. 😎

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                #130

                @Axtremus said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                You ask us to trust your posts every day.

                I never ask. All y'all just know that I'm right. 😎

                You've never been right in your life.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #131

                  Two years later, the House decides it's time.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #132

                    I want Biden's.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      I want Biden's.

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                      George K
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                      #133

                      @Jolly said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                      I want Biden's.

                      They've been published.

                      https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/17/politics/joe-jill-biden-tax-returns/index.html

                      Unless you're talking 'bout the other Biden.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
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                        #134

                        Apparently it's lawful to release POTUS' tax returns to the committee, but the are supposed to stay in camera, unless he approves their public release.

                        Where's that SCOTUS leaker when they need him?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
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                          What legitimate interest does the committee have to seek his tax returns, much less publish them? The fact that he did not turn them over as a candidate is, to me, nothing. No candidate before him that did was required to do so.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            What legitimate interest does the committee have to seek his tax returns, much less publish them? The fact that he did not turn them over as a candidate is, to me, nothing. No candidate before him that did was required to do so.

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                            @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                            What legitimate interest does the committee have to seek his tax returns, much less publish them?

                            To show receipts from Putin. Wait...

                            To show checks to the Russian hookers. Wait...

                            The fact that he did not turn them over as a candidate is, to me, nothing. No candidate before him that did was required to do so.

                            He's a private citizen. WIth the GOP in the leadership of the House, what's to stop them from accessing Hunter's my taxes?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
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                              #137

                              Precisely my concern. The witchhunt continues.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                What legitimate interest does the committee have to seek his tax returns, much less publish them? The fact that he did not turn them over as a candidate is, to me, nothing. No candidate before him that did was required to do so.

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                                @Mik said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                What legitimate interest does the committee have to seek his tax returns, ...

                                https://www.npr.org/2022/11/22/1136846873/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns

                                "The House Ways and Means Committee argued that it needs the information contained in Trump's tax returns to meaningfully evaluate the IRS's presidential audit program. The Committee says it is considering implementing greater legislative oversight of financial activities conducted by presidents. In particular, it is investigating whether the current IRS audit program is able to adequately enforce the nation's tax laws against a president, like Trump, who has complex business holdings."

                                These rationales have passed muster with multiple court reviews and appeals.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  #139

                                  HEre's the law:

                                  (f)Disclosure to Committees of Congress
                                  (1)Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
                                  Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

                                  Emphasis mine.

                                  Seems that the committee is acting outside the word of the law in its release of the information. But then, the New York Times did it a long time ago and there was no prosecution.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #140

                                    This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #141

                                      @jon-nyc said in NYT publishes Trump tax returns:

                                      This went to Scotus. Maybe even twice.

                                      To release publicly, or just to the committee?

                                      Is the law I cited outdated?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        Maybe Trump will file a lawsuit to block the public release of his tax returns. :man-shrugging:

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                                          Let me guess, Trump’s taxes confirm he is a loser much more than he’s a winner. Shall I list his bankrupt companies again? I haven’t seen anything yet but I’m pretty confident Trump’s best asset is his ability to communicate and fool others into think he’s more successful than he actually is.

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