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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

    Critiquing the basement strategy misses the fact that the folks who are losing are losing all by themselves. They’re not winning people over. They are the ones who are failing here.

    Maybe they’re the ones who need to change what they’re saying? Well, not maybe, obviously. At least it should be obvious.

    Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
    #63

    @Jolly said in The Lake:

    Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

    What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

    YMMV.

    I was only joking

    JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Jolly said in The Lake:

      Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

      What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

      YMMV.

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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #64

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

      @Jolly said in The Lake:

      Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

      What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

      YMMV.

      Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        89th
        wrote on last edited by
        #65

        @Jolly today my toddler was counting... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 13, 14. And my dad said "Look, a future election official!" Thought you'd appreciate that.

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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #66

          Smart dad.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

            @Jolly said in The Lake:

            Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

            What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

            YMMV.

            Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
            #67

            @Jolly said in The Lake:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

            @Jolly said in The Lake:

            Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

            What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

            YMMV.

            Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

            OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

            The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

            I was only joking

            JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Jolly said in The Lake:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

              @Jolly said in The Lake:

              Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

              What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

              YMMV.

              Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

              OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

              The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #68

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

              @Jolly said in The Lake:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

              @Jolly said in The Lake:

              Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

              What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

              YMMV.

              Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

              OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

              The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

              I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

              Change my mind.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG George K

                The moment where Lake lost:

                There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

                She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

                MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #69

                @George-K said in The Lake:

                The moment where Lake lost:

                There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

                She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

                Yep.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                  Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                  What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                  YMMV.

                  Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                  OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                  The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                  I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                  Change my mind.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #70

                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                  Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                  What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                  YMMV.

                  Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                  OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                  The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                  I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                  Change my mind.

                  Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                  Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

                  I was only joking

                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                    Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                    What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                    YMMV.

                    Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                    OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                    The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                    I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                    Change my mind.

                    Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                    Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #71

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                    Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                    What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                    YMMV.

                    Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                    OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                    The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                    I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                    Change my mind.

                    Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                    Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

                    Obamacare.

                    The catalyst, remember?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                      What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                      YMMV.

                      Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                      OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                      The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                      I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                      Change my mind.

                      Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                      Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

                      Obamacare.

                      The catalyst, remember?

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #72

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                      What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                      YMMV.

                      Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                      OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                      The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                      I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                      Change my mind.

                      Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                      Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

                      Obamacare.

                      The catalyst, remember?

                      Yes, it makes perfect sense to attack somebody's war record over something they did 40 years later.

                      I was only joking

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                      • George KG George K

                        The moment where Lake lost:

                        There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

                        She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #73

                        @George-K said in The Lake:

                        The moment where Lake lost:

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #74

                          A haiku for Kari Lake:

                          Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                          Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                          Ha Ha Ha you lost

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            A haiku for Kari Lake:

                            Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                            Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                            Ha Ha Ha you lost

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by Horace
                            #75

                            @jon-nyc said in The Lake:

                            A haiku for Kari Lake:

                            Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                            Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                            Ha Ha Ha you lost

                            Shouldn't you be looking deep into the eyes of a fellow TDS sufferer and solemnly saying that our country barely dodged another existential crisis? Then share a long and gently sobbing hug?

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @jon-nyc said in The Lake:

                              A haiku for Kari Lake:

                              Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                              Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
                              Ha Ha Ha you lost

                              Shouldn't you be looking deep into the eyes of a fellow TDS sufferer and solemnly saying that our country barely dodged another existential crisis? Then share a long and gently sobbing hug?

                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #76

                              I’m doing exactly what I should be doing at this time. Taking great pleasure in the lamentation of your women.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                #77

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #78

                                  It must be so legally muddy about the right to play songs within a political campaign. Clearly you can’t broadcast them. But what else?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    It must be so legally muddy about the right to play songs within a political campaign. Clearly you can’t broadcast them. But what else?

                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #79

                                    I doubt it’s muddy at all. There’s probably a half century of case law as to what constitutes a public performance.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      I doubt it’s muddy at all. There’s probably a half century of case law as to what constitutes a public performance.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #80

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Lake:

                                      I doubt it’s muddy at all. There’s probably a half century of case law as to what constitutes a public performance.

                                      And yet the playing of unlicensed songs by well heeled campaigns continues to be ubiquitous.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #81

                                        Her experience with the song is a great metaphor for her campaign. She thinks she “wont back down” but ultimately the law says she has to.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #82

                                          Let's just be thankful that nothing rhymes with orange.

                                          I was only joking

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