The Lake

[Jolly]

I think she showed a lot of promise. Articulate, energetic and a lot of her volunteers were young people. Her opponent refused to debate her.

Maybe all Demonrats will soon adopt the Biden Basement Strategy.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

... the Biden Basement Strategy.

Why mess with a winning strategy?

[xenon]

I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

R's should have had this one in the bag.

[Jolly]

@xenon said in The Lake:

I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

R's should have had this one in the bag.

That's a pretty shitty statement, isn't it?

[xenon]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

@xenon said in The Lake:

I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

R's should have had this one in the bag.

That's a pretty shitty statement, isn't it?

Not as shitty as Trump

[George K]

The moment where Lake lost:

There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

[George K]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

Maybe all Demonrats will soon adopt the Biden Basement Strategy.

Hobbs and Fetterman (mostly) did exactly that.

[Doctor Phibes]

Critiquing the basement strategy misses the fact that the folks who are losing are losing all by themselves. They’re not winning people over. They are the ones who are failing here.

Maybe they’re the ones who need to change what they’re saying? Well, not maybe, obviously. At least it should be obvious.

[Horace]

It’s good to see Trumpiness unequivocally rejected. Let’s rip the bandaid off and proceed with better candidates. This would be a painful lesson to have to relearn next election.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

Critiquing the basement strategy misses the fact that the folks who are losing are losing all by themselves. They’re not winning people over. They are the ones who are failing here.

Maybe they’re the ones who need to change what they’re saying? Well, not maybe, obviously. At least it should be obvious.

Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

[jon-nyc]

Right, that’s why you fucking lost.

[Jolly]

Enjoy it while you can.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

YMMV.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

YMMV.

Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

[89th]

@Jolly today my toddler was counting... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 13, 14. And my dad said "Look, a future election official!" Thought you'd appreciate that.

[Jolly]

Smart dad.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

YMMV.

Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

YMMV.

Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

Change my mind.

[Mik]

@George-K said in The Lake:

The moment where Lake lost:

There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

Yep.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

@Jolly said in The Lake:

Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

YMMV.

Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

Change my mind.

Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.