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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1195

    Interesting look at what was prognosticated a month before the invasion:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/europe/ukraine-russia-explainer-war-threat-cmd-intl/index.html

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #1196

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/battalion-of-russian-mobilised-men-wiped-out-in-days-survivors-claim/ar-AA13NRTf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d66e439eac28414ca297c50de4ed59fa

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #1197

        Dovetailing with what @Mik said, Russia has lost more fighter jets in these 10 months than it did in its entire stay if Afghanistan.

        Granted, the enemies are not quite the same (US support for both notwithstanding), but considering how unpopular the Afghanistan adventure was, this is telling.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #1198

          Wow...

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1199

            Mutiny?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by Mik
              #1200

              Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #1201

                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

                Badly

                I was only joking

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1202

                  They used the f-word. They need to be canceled.

                  The Brad

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

                    Badly

                    RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1203

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

                    Badly

                    I have said for some weeks now it’s just a matter of time that the Russian soldiers will starting voting with their feet as they did in 1917. Maybe we’re are seeing the beginnings of that vote.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1204

                      Another one bites the dust. Sadly, not in the conventional sense.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-pulls-commander-in-ukraine-following-criticism-over-battlefield-losses/ar-AA13Q44p?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=eea485b200554f129be1ed55941372d9

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

                        CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1205

                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory.

                        Because we don't want them to turn on us.

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #1206

                          Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1207

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                            https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-is-wary-of-russias-kherson-retreat-fearing-a-trap-11668078822?mod=e2tw

                            Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.

                            Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.

                            But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.

                            “It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.

                            Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1208

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-set-to-skip-g20-summit-after-learning-another-world-leader-will-slap-him-in-the-face-over-war-with-ukraine/ar-AA13VTxF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a111bea4985c4eebb0d65a3dd5785e3a

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1209

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                                  https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-is-wary-of-russias-kherson-retreat-fearing-a-trap-11668078822?mod=e2tw

                                  Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.

                                  Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.

                                  But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.

                                  “It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.

                                  Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”

                                  RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1210

                                  @George-K

                                  Here’s a good follow up report more or less confirming that the Kremlin is undertaking a maskirovka with this supposed retreat:

                                  https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/08/undesirable-but-likely

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1211

                                    Ukrainian troops surrounded in Kherson:

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1212

                                      There's a guy who keeps track of all Russian losses in a google database.

                                      The sidebar lets you look at individual items, as well as trends.

                                      Fascinating.

                                      https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/IzToC?s=pDAeJUAm1lY

                                      Here's a screenshot.

                                      Screenshot 2022-11-11 at 8.50.14 AM.png

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1213

                                        Russia soldier gets grenades dropped on him by a drone. Throws them away just before they explode.

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1214

                                          Not news, but another shot of demonstrations in Kherson.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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