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    Jolly
    wrote on 8 Oct 2022, 13:04 last edited by
    #1

    I think she's running a heckuva campaign in Arizona. She's her own campaign manager and most of her volunteers are young people.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 04:21 last edited by
      #2

      2018 - after the death of John McCain

      "The 'Maverick' has died. Four days shy of his 82nd birthday Senator John Mccain passed away at his Cornville, Arizona home after a courageous battle with cancer. A war hero, icon and a force to be reckoned with. Sending my deepest condolences to his family at this painful time."

      2022 - After kissing the shoes of President Trump

      We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.

      "Okay, if you [are], get the hell out," she added with a laugh.

      Elsewhere at the event, Lake again noted that the Republican party was "the party of McCain," sneering her face before saying, "I know. Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven't they?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 05:43 last edited by
        #3

        In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 11:33 last edited by
          #4

          You can’t spell crazy without R-AZ

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • T taiwan_girl
            8 Nov 2022, 04:21

            2018 - after the death of John McCain

            "The 'Maverick' has died. Four days shy of his 82nd birthday Senator John Mccain passed away at his Cornville, Arizona home after a courageous battle with cancer. A war hero, icon and a force to be reckoned with. Sending my deepest condolences to his family at this painful time."

            2022 - After kissing the shoes of President Trump

            We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.

            "Okay, if you [are], get the hell out," she added with a laugh.

            Elsewhere at the event, Lake again noted that the Republican party was "the party of McCain," sneering her face before saying, "I know. Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven't they?

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 11:36 last edited by
            #5

            @taiwan_girl said in The Lake:

            2018 - after the death of John McCain

            "The 'Maverick' has died. Four days shy of his 82nd birthday Senator John Mccain passed away at his Cornville, Arizona home after a courageous battle with cancer. A war hero, icon and a force to be reckoned with. Sending my deepest condolences to his family at this painful time."

            2022 - After kissing the shoes of President Trump

            We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.

            "Okay, if you [are], get the hell out," she added with a laugh.

            Elsewhere at the event, Lake again noted that the Republican party was "the party of McCain," sneering her face before saying, "I know. Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven't they?

            Hey, Donald would have made the same statements in the same speech…

            The Brad

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              Mik
              wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 11:56 last edited by
              #6

              People change their mind, and they change their roles. In 2018 she was a newscaster. She was paid to make statements other people wrote.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 12:04 last edited by taiwan_girl 11 Aug 2022, 12:06
                #7

                I guess I just don't get it. I don't understand the "hatred" that each side has for the other.

                Maybe hatred is too strong a word, but you know what I mean.

                President Trump finds a cure for cancer. Democrats complain that he didn't do it sooner or that he only solved one type of cancer, etc.

                President Biden finds a cure of cancer. Republicans complain that he didn't do it soon or that he only solved one type of cancer, etc.

                The most thing that you can be certain on, is that no matter what one party proposes (maybe the most logical makes sense proposal in the world), the other party will come out against it just because they didn't think of it or propose.

                It would be nice if the organizations that Mik mentioned in the thread earlier were able to gain a lot of support. (forward party and country1st)

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 12:22 last edited by
                  #8

                  Wish in one hand and poop in the other. See which one fills up faster.

                  The two parties can morph, but I don't see any substantial third party with any staying power being able to exist.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    8 Nov 2022, 05:43

                    In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 12:28 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Aug 2022, 12:29
                    #9

                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                    In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

                    A unique trait amongst both politicians and former reality TV stars

                    I was only joking

                    J 1 Reply Last reply 8 Nov 2022, 12:29
                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      8 Nov 2022, 12:28

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

                      A unique trait amongst both politicians and former reality TV stars

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 12:29 last edited by
                      #10

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                      @Jolly said in The Lake:

                      In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

                      A unique trait amongst politicians

                      No, Mac was even worse than usual.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        8 Nov 2022, 12:29

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                        In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

                        A unique trait amongst politicians

                        No, Mac was even worse than usual.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 14:40 last edited by
                        #11

                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                        In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

                        A unique trait amongst politicians

                        No, Mac was even worse than usual.

                        I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

                        I was only joking

                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply 8 Nov 2022, 14:43
                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          8 Nov 2022, 14:40

                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                          In the end, Mac loved his press clippings too much.

                          A unique trait amongst politicians

                          No, Mac was even worse than usual.

                          I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 14:43 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                          I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

                          Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K
                            8 Nov 2022, 14:43

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                            I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

                            Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 14:47 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Aug 2022, 14:48
                            #13

                            @George-K said in The Lake:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                            I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

                            Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.

                            It's a bit sad that McCain comes out as the bad guy after the falling out with Trump, who it has to be said is orders of magnitude bigger in being a publicity and attention whore. Criticising McCain for liking headlines, but supporting Trump- seriously?

                            I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

                            I was only joking

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                            • T taiwan_girl
                              8 Nov 2022, 12:04

                              I guess I just don't get it. I don't understand the "hatred" that each side has for the other.

                              Maybe hatred is too strong a word, but you know what I mean.

                              President Trump finds a cure for cancer. Democrats complain that he didn't do it sooner or that he only solved one type of cancer, etc.

                              President Biden finds a cure of cancer. Republicans complain that he didn't do it soon or that he only solved one type of cancer, etc.

                              The most thing that you can be certain on, is that no matter what one party proposes (maybe the most logical makes sense proposal in the world), the other party will come out against it just because they didn't think of it or propose.

                              It would be nice if the organizations that Mik mentioned in the thread earlier were able to gain a lot of support. (forward party and country1st)

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 16:22 last edited by
                              #14

                              @taiwan_girl said in The Lake:

                              I guess I just don't get it. I don't understand the "hatred" that each side has for the other.

                              Maybe hatred is too strong a word, but you know what I mean.

                              You have to think in terms of culture, and the degree to which humans are programmable by it, and the degree to which politics informs culture. When people from one tribe say they "can't understand" people from the other tribe, they mean it. Human minds can be so profoundly wired by their surrounding culture, that the thoughts and feels of others from other cultures can become alien to the extent of incomprehensibility.

                              That's why an ability to adequately characterize either tribe is actually a good and objective measure of whether one is tribal oneself. Anybody who makes their humble brag claim of not being able to understand how anybody could vote for Trump, for instance, or who boils it down to transparently false value judgments, is admitting to having a tribally indoctrinated psyche. That admission is socially beneficial within the tribe, so it's the opposite of a shameful weakness, or something to be addressed through deeper thought or empathy.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                8 Nov 2022, 14:47

                                @George-K said in The Lake:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

                                Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.

                                It's a bit sad that McCain comes out as the bad guy after the falling out with Trump, who it has to be said is orders of magnitude bigger in being a publicity and attention whore. Criticising McCain for liking headlines, but supporting Trump- seriously?

                                I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 16:34 last edited by
                                #15

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

                                McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 16:36 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Lake seems to be a mix of a televangelist and news anchor. Loves the camera, good on stage, and happy to flip flop for votes. Also, believes elections shouldn't be trusted, which I'd imagine she'll flip-flop on if she wins.

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                                  • 89th8 89th
                                    8 Nov 2022, 16:34

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                    I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

                                    McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 17:38 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @89th said in The Lake:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                    I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

                                    McCain was the politician (and conservative) we needed (and still need) more of. Decent, steadfast, principled, but knew the value of compromise for the sake of the country.

                                    Spoken like a true Romney Rat.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      8 Nov 2022, 14:47

                                      @George-K said in The Lake:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                      I seem to recall very few on the Republican side having a problem with him prior to the falling out with Trump.

                                      Those were the guys who preferred him to Obama.

                                      It's a bit sad that McCain comes out as the bad guy after the falling out with Trump, who it has to be said is orders of magnitude bigger in being a publicity and attention whore. Criticising McCain for liking headlines, but supporting Trump- seriously?

                                      I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 23:19 last edited by Renauda 11 Aug 2022, 23:21
                                      #18

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                      @George-K said in The Lake:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                      I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

                                      In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.

                                      I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.

                                      Elbows up!

                                      J 1 Reply Last reply 8 Nov 2022, 23:22
                                      • R Renauda
                                        8 Nov 2022, 23:19

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        @George-K said in The Lake:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

                                        In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.

                                        I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 23:22 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @Renauda said in The Lake:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        @George-K said in The Lake:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        I didn't like McCain's approach to foreign policy much, but he seemed like a pretty decent guy to me.

                                        In hindsight though he had Putin pegged and I doubt that the latter would have annexed Crimea, started a civil war in the Donbas or gave direct military assistance to the Assad regime had McCain won the 2008 and 2012 elections. Putin would have learned early on that McCain was not one to offer meaningless foreign policy resets or draw imaginary lines the sand.

                                        I actually think McCain could have beat Obama in 2008 if he hadn’t been saddled with that lightweight bimbo, Sarah Palin as a running mate.

                                        I doubt it.

                                        The MSM had already annointed his opposition.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 8 Nov 2022, 23:31 last edited by
                                          #20

                                          I must admit I thought at the time that the Palin choice was a huge blunder.

                                          I was only joking

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